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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:11 PM
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Webb's adviser, Jarding, Just smacked down Allen on Hardball
He said that Webb's books are based on experiences Webb witnessed. They are about war. Allen never served. If Allen had read the books, perhaps he would not have voted for going into Iraq and we wouldn't have so many dead and wounded soldiers.

I wish I could relate it word for word. He nailed the issue.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:14 PM
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1. It was a thing of beauty, and no one from Allen's camp was
'available'. :eyes: Talking about how sleazy the campaign has become.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:18 PM
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3. Seems like Harball is taking Webb's side in this
Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 04:19 PM by eleny
Nice.

P.S. Cap Wineburger and McCaine also wrote favorably about the boks. What a dumb move by the Allen campaign!
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:17 PM
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2. Webb
Webb would be a fool if he doesn't now push for Allen to unseal his divorce records(I heard a rumor he spit on his wife) also Webb needs to push Allen dragging his sister up the steps by here hair. It's time to get down dirty with Allen.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:22 PM
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5. Just mentioning the divorce papers makes people curious
It's about time Allen's personality got a airing. He started all this muck. If Republican Virginians manage to vote him back in, it's to their shame. I love that state and hate to see this happening.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:20 PM
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4. Sounds like someone's reading Daily Kos!
How Webb Must Respond: FACT, NOT FICTION

So, the Internet is all atwitter with the latest smear by Senator Felix Macaca on Jim Webb, taking various disturbing pasages from fictional novels written by Webb.

Relevant passages include:

"A shirtless man walked toward them along a mud pathway. His muscles were young and hard, but his face was devastated with wrinkles. His eyes were so red that they appeared to be burned by fire. A naked boy ran happily toward him from a little plot of dirt. The man grabbed his young son in his arms, turned him upside down, and put the boy's penis in his mouth."

and

"Fogarty . . . watch a naked young stripper do the splits over a banana. She stood back up, her face smiling proudly and her round breasts glistening from a spotlight in the dim bar, and left the banana on the bar, cut in four equal sections by the muscles of her vagina."

The story is extremely young, but so far, there has been no substantive response from the Webb campaign.

Now, all other things being equal, this might be a strong blow against the Webb campaign.

And I'm sorry to say it, but it's true: A simple "Hey, it's just fiction!" response simply won't cut it here. After all, we have made a big deal about Scooter Libby's girl-bear sex passages. What a novelist writes can and does provide an insight into his or her own worldview and character. And these passages, if cut from whole-cloth straight from the imagination of an author, would be extremely disturbing and cast doubt on the moral character of the author himself.

That need not be the case here, however--because there's a great comeback that Webb can provide to this that should put Allen very much on the defensive, if the Webb campaign is smart enough to use it.

That defense lies NOT in the idea that these are works of FICTION, but rather that they are works of FACT.

What do I mean? I'll tell you.

You see, if the public believes that Webb wrote these things straight from his own head and fertile imagination, Virginia voters will believe that he is one sick puppy with a sick imagination and a degrading view of women and children.

(more)
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:25 PM
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6. Good for KOS and good for the Webb campaign!
Sure looks like they did.

They should be using "the google" and reading "the internets" for some of the most insightful ideas.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:27 PM
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7. OK, but that Matthews and his progarm are garbage. He is a slimy
character. Plus he spits and slobbers.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:35 PM
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9. The slobbering drives me nuts
But I liked hearing him take Webb's side in this issue.
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:34 PM
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8. If you haven't read Steve Jarding's book Foxes in the Henhouse...
you should.
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Donna Zen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-27-06 04:38 PM
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10. Rule 1
Democrats need how to count. Loved the book. Steve Jarding is clued in about how elections work, and he knows how to count.
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