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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:24 PM Original message |
Why Don't Democrats Fully Support The Bill Of Rights? |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Interesting argument. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. hardly |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Thanks for your thoughtful answer. |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. ::::yawn:::: |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. you haven't knocked down anything |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 05:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
35. and you haven't made a valid argument. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 11:06 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. more empty claims? |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 08:13 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. As you state... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. why are your defending a failing strategy? |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 12:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. so what's your approach to defending the Geneva Conventions? |
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choop (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 10:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
77. I think |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wrong site to post an anti-Democratic party diatribe. |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. What's anti-Democratic party about that post? |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Thanks.... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. so in other words... |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Republicans Are Attacking Civil Rights |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. no argument...? |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Just Don't Want to FEED your Argument |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:00 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. show me which Dems DO take my view? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #4 |
83. Precisely. |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's not a bad argument... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. thanks... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. i didn't say it was the right argument... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:50 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. according to the ninth... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:57 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. but according to the Commerce Clause, the ninth is meaningless. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I see no conflict |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. put another way... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I understand your point, I'm just saying that, IMO, |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I think... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. So if I said the Ninth is just a rule of construction... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 03:40 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. not sure what you're saying... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. BTW... the Ninth is the basis of Griswold...... |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. I think that is a great arguement. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 01:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. a list is dangerous... |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. a list WITHOUT TEETH is dangerous |
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IM paranoid (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. All I know is, the Republicans took away my right to Habeus Corpus, not |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. But the Democrats didn't fight for it... |
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IM paranoid (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The Dems do need to show more intestinal fortitude, I agree but... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 12:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
84. Yes, thank you. |
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EST (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 01:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
40. There are, right now, fights gearing up all over the place. |
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SouthernBelle82 (879 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 12:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. And here is the problem |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. we're all aware of the Right's attempts to trash the Constitution |
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LoZoccolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. What's your point? |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I had the same question. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 03:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. and if anyone else... |
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MrCoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I thought it was to offer an alternative debate on the origin of |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 03:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. exactly |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 03:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. red herring alert! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-28-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
37. Deleted sub-thread |
RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. A few points ... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 04:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. thanks for your thoughtful response...... |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 10:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Okay, that's enough ... |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. How amazing that you would interpret what he wrote the way you do |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 05:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. i'm reminded of what a right winger once said |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You walk on strange ground ... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #53 |
64. I've already stated what...... |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 09:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. I didn't ask what *you* think it means ... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 11:08 AM Response to Reply #73 |
93. you're assuming that Bork is a "strict constuctionist" |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 06:26 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Ohdearlord ... |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:10 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. My point ... |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 06:42 AM Response to Reply #52 |
85. I didn't fail to understand your point, I disagree with it. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
50. So, besides complaining, |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 05:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. this topic is not about me.. |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. So all you are doing is complaining about the Democrats. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:16 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. so all you can do is make personal attacks? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. I was a delegate to my county convention |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. give yourself a medal.... |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:48 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. About your original post |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
55. ENOUGH CHEAP SHOTS! |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Here is a key point |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. more personal attacks |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. Aren't you the sensitive one. |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. even MORE personal attacks? |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I'll answer the question you asked in the title of you OP |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 09:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. So I'm Responsible? ROTF |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. You're right, see post #69 n/t |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:34 PM Response to Reply #74 |
78. blah blah....... |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #78 |
82. When a clown walks into the center ring at the circus, |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 10:28 AM Response to Reply #68 |
88. I Await A Retraction |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 12:54 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Get over yourself |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:24 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. When? |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 06:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. this sub-thread is for those only taking cheap shots |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 10:16 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. You don't get to make the rules ... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. I did NOT ask ONE question... |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:56 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. I answered all of them ... |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 10:45 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. If you are going to make a point........ |
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RoyGBiv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 05:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Ah, yes ... |
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cosmik debris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
69. The Misunderstood Genius |
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SeaBob (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
70. Bill of Rights |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. I thought I was clear on "right to choose"... |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 06:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
86. I'd disagree a bit with you, or at least with your phrasing |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 10:32 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. rights are in the mind of the beholder |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 10:51 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Fairy nuff (nt) |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-29-06 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
80. What do Democrats do that violates the 9th amendment? |
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Katzenjammer (541 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 07:05 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. It's not so much violate it as fail to use it |
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ZombieGak (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 11:01 AM Response to Reply #80 |
92. I never said violate |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-30-06 01:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Scalia believes that unless rights are specifically stated, they don't exist |
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