underpants
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:40 AM
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Wow some people just don't get jokes |
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Edited on Wed Nov-01-06 08:46 AM by underpants
I knew what Kerry meant as soon as I went and found the video, so did the audience at the speech. Who didn't? Well I hate to be a divider but the right didn't---they just don't get humor.
I have many friends and relatives who are of that belief system and they really really don't get irony or satire or parody. The Daily Show is a foreign language to them and they echoed what was on the RW blogosphere, they thought Colbert was on their side. Someone should get a grant and do a study on why these comedic means simply don't register in their brains.
As Olbermann said last night, "Kerry called Bush stupid and Bush was too stupid to understand what Kerry said" or something to that effect.
The right might just be letting their 30 year campaign to portray themselves as the fun loving HAPPY not old curmudgeons sitting in a dark corner HAPPY patriots fly right out the window.
But honestly....
Truth be told I really don't think it will matter. Anyone who gets all fired up about that is not going to vote for a Dem anyway other than that most people's minds are already made up. Midterms tend to have lower voter turnout so usually they are only people who really pay attention to politics or are really determined to vote a certain way. This time I think the turnout will be quite good basically for two reasons: -We are so politicized that everyone is into politics, well a large number anyway. Religion and politics were two things that you didn't use to bring up at work or in many social situations but now it usually follows right after sport or TV. Everyone talks about it all the time. -(this one might be tinged with a bit of editorializing) The attempt to knock the wind out of the anti-Bush crowd with what happened in 2004 has failed miserably. It has completely invigorated our base and we know what we can do on short notice (possibly the largest grass roots movement in history 2004 was). I'm not counting chickens mind you but then WE weren't the ones declaring a WIN for "the next generation" only two years ago now were we?
So Kerry said something that throws IRAQ right back onto the front burner- GOOD let the punishment of history for this horrible war officially begin now.
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:46 AM
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1. The Republican reaction to Kerry's |
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speech was typical. Shrub's reaction reminded me of another little man in a foreign country in the 1940s speaking bombastically from a balcony.
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:49 AM
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2. The people most easily offended by irony and sarcasm |
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are those least able to understand it.
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Wed Nov-01-06 01:14 PM
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16. Wow. That was well said. |
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I agree totally.
Can I use that quote?
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Wed Nov-01-06 02:20 PM
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I don't know who I stole it from but feel free to use it.
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:53 AM
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3. The perceived problem is that |
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the Wrong-wing goobers, the real-live, honest-to-Jaaaaaysus hardcore freaks who have to be motivated to vote against something instead of for it, stood a good chance of staying home next Tuesday.
That's all gone now.
Whether Keith Olberman, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy, Sam Seder, Thom Hartmann, Peter B. Collins, you, me and every single poster at DU, Kos, Buzzflash and elsewhere among the Democrats "got" what Kerry meant Does.Not.Matter.
What matters is that John Kerry just handed the Repigs the one thing they'd been praying for: a motivator to get out the knuckle-walkers. And you may rest assured that the goobers will run, not walk, but run to the polls on Tuesday morning.
All because John Kerry left One.Stinking.Word out of a cheap little one-liner.
The word he left out? "Us." As in "you get US stuck in Iraq."
Am I the only one who sees the profound irony in that?
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:59 AM
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that kerry obviously thinks we are all stupid enough to believe that he was trying to tell us a joke......gimme a break
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:05 AM
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9. That's really the problem with Kerry, isn't it? |
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With that monotone, you can't tell when he's telling a joke or telling you off or telling you he'll be late for supper.
I agree, and am glad you do, too.
Gimme a break, Kerry! Leave comedy to the comedians. It's not your oeuvre
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Wed Nov-01-06 12:16 PM
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that the only people who didn't get the joke are the stupid people that Kerry was talking about.
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:03 AM
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7. No you aren't the only one |
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the fact that is was "Us" makes it all the more incredible.
Plausibility that is all they are looking for now. -No exit polling -the NJ gay court ruling -"with us or against us" -Kerry's joke
All are to be added together and give us some election returns that are simply hard to believe.
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Wed Nov-01-06 08:56 AM
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4. The right's base is mainly fundamentalist |
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and the first thing to go in fundamental religion is the sense of humor. Humor=fun=hell.
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:01 AM
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6. A few DU'ers don't get it either. nt |
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:04 AM
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right here on this thread too.
^ | | | :eyes:
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:09 AM
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10. no, i don't think you do |
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take a look around and observe the lack of cheers and hoorahs from kerry's peer group, maybe then you will begin to see
kerry hurt us in a very rovian way
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Wed Nov-01-06 09:21 AM
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11. Many on the right have probably not heard the remark in full |
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context. Many have probably only heard and seen the small clip that has been used to "prove" that Kerry is unpatriotic. Most don't bother to do the research to learn the truth and make up their own minds on the issues. It's much easier to let Bushco tell them what to think and how to react.
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Wed Nov-01-06 12:00 PM
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12. It just wasn't funny. The line he had before that was funny, |
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but this particular line wasn't.
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Wed Nov-01-06 12:14 PM
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13. I was watching Murtha earlier on MSNBC |
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and the ticker on the bottom said, those who don't succeed in school, get stuck in Iraq. Now Scarborough is on and he just said, those who don't get an education, end up in Iraq. They are taking the whole comment out of context. That's not what John Kerry said!!
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Wed Nov-01-06 12:31 PM
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15. But Iraq is being mentioned at every turn right? |
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Wed Nov-01-06 04:23 PM
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18. Plus the fact that this war is being fought by the poor. |
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While the college Republicans sit on the sidelines, ... well, not "on", more like "thousands and thousands of miles away from the sidelines" ... and cheer them on to their death.
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Wed Nov-01-06 05:25 PM
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19. Some people can't tell jokes. |
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It was harmless, but now he has apologized. Back to the flip-flop image the Corporate Media has waited for. It's a shame that he went for the laugh and didn't stay on the attack about Iraq.
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