Breaking on MSNBC...

[jenmito]

There's now a call for Rumsfeld's resignation from Military Times Media Group! Right after Bush said he's going to Keep Rumsfeld forever! :D

[thepurpose]

1. Army Times, Air Force Times, Navy Times & Marine Corps Times for those

who don't know who the entire make up of the group. Thank you.

[jenmito]

3. Thanks. I didn't know that...

But they just said it on Countdown. :hi:

[thepurpose]

7. More for anyone who didn't see Countdown, but might still be curious

[ls317]

16. Miltary Media Times Group

They are part of Gannett Publishing Group...(USA Today)

[napi21]

2. I just spent the last minute yelling OH MY GOD! at my TV!

WOW! Talk about the world turning on someone! That's the same military that Shrub always says he listens to, huh?

[jenmito]

4. YUP!...

I hope the Dems. throw a commercial together regarding this!

[Kagemusha]

5. Is this even legal?

I have no idea who runs these Times mags.

[jenmito]

9. It must be...

From the tiny bit I heard about it so far I didn't hear anything about it being illegal.

[thepurpose]

11. The make up of the Times mags makes them independent from military pressure

to run articles. I will find more of their make up for you hold on a sec.

[Kagemusha]

13. Feel free. Serving officers would be a problem obviously

I'm just pre-empting what I'm sure other people will be asking as a knee-jerk reaction. So thank you :)

[jenmito]

14. Ah. Thanks again!

They're talking about it now, but I look forward to reading your info. :hi:

[thepurpose]

21. Army Times Publishing Company is a Gannett subsidiary.

Army Times Publishing Company is a Gannett subsidiary. It publishes newsweeklies widely read by United States military people and their families, federal employees and defense and aerospace industry leaders worldwide.
Army Times Publishing Company produces seven weekly papers.

Army Times, Navy Times, Air Force Times, and Marine Corps Times are the "bibles" of the military market. Each paper is edited separately for its branch of the service and serves as an unofficial source of information affecting service people and their families. These publications reach 72% -- almost three-quarters of the entire active duty military every week. Over the course of a year, they reach 92% of all officers 43 times; 92% of non-commissioned officers 41 times, and 89% of all enlisted personnel an average of 40 times. They also reach 65% of all military wives an average of 27 times.

Defense News, Space News,and Federal Times -- Also on a weekly basis, Army Times Publishing Company puts out three papers aimed towards the civilian sector. In 1965, the company launched Federal Times in an effort to provide the same type of personnel coverage among the civilian employees of the federal government as it did among the military. Defense News serves as a concise package of information, targeted at key decision makers, but readable by the general populace. Space News has a special focus on the politics and business of space.

Each of the papers has an online presence, which you can visit via the dropdown box below:


Army Times Publishing Company has an established reputation as a well-respected independent newspaper publishing company. General Colin Powell said it succinctly and well when he appeared before the House Foreign Affairs Committee in 1992:

"A few weeks ago, all of the troops out in the field were still reading retrospectives about how well they had done in the Persian Gulf. They don't read The Washington Post. They read such things called the Army Times, Navy Times, and the Air Force Times. Once a week, these are published, and they go all over the force. This is what the troops read."

http://www.atpco.com/index.html

[jenmito]

22. Thanks a lot!...

So there's no way the Repubs. can claim this is a "liberal rag." :D

[thepurpose]

24. Oh no they can claim they are liberals. And this Media Group is not doing this

to gain attention nor to they take it lightly. By the way anyone can read and subscribe to these mags. You don't have to be in the military or federal government. As long as you can pay the yearly sub.

[jenmito]

26. The BUSH admin. can claim the writers of these publications are liberals?

[thepurpose]

27. No I'm sorry I meant can't claim their liberal. Typo.,

[jenmito]

28. Oh. Ok...

Thanks. That makes sense. :hi:

[ChiciB1]

32. Thanks For Your Intelligent Reporting!

I was a bit befuddled!!

[Stinky The Clown]

25. They are a commercial venture, not a government organization

As, say, The Baltimore Sun serves the community of Baltimore, the Army Times serves the community of active duty Army, Army retirees, and their families.

Ditto for the Navy, Marines, and Air Force Times.

[redphish]

6. I guess they got tired of Rummi

telling them that he knows how to run the military better than they do.

[LonelyLRLiberal]

12. I'm sure they also got tired of the military brass being blamed for Iraq

We all know Rummy makes the decisions - see, he's the decider, see.

[kestrel91316]

8. Bush is going to SHUT THEM DOWN for this.

[jenmito]

10. Too late...

It's already "out there." :D

[kestrel91316]

34. Nope. He will do something nasty after the fact. Watch him.

[jenmito]

37. If the Dems. are in the majority in congress...

I hope they'll do something about it if he tries.

[tridim]

15. I thought Haggard was going to be the last scandal before Tuesday

Then WHAM! Along comes another devastating blow.

They're coming at a rate of one per day now! :D

[Lil Red]

17. Today is a twofer...

The #1 story on Countdown was the Republics deciding to release Iraq's documents on building A-bombs.

[jenmito]

19. I can't wait to see what tomorrow's scandal will be!

As long as it is a Repub. scandal!

[jenmito]

18. I thought it would be the Kerry non-story...

I bet Kerry and the Dems. are thanking God for Haggard and now this! Oh, and don't forget that Bush overrode Negroponte's wish to NOT publicize those documents which turned out to contain instructions on how to make a nuclear bomb! :D

[ChiciB1]

20. My Doubting Thomas Husband Asked Me... Are The Generals

in Iraq going along with this? I just told him what was reported and he said that it didn't mean ANYTHING unless the Generals "over there" are supporting this.

Even though he and I were raised as "army brats" it was back in the 60's so I KNOW things have changed. Is this just an editorial "suggestion" or is there more to it?? I was giddy for just a moment until he said to me "Oh, we'll see!"

Can anyone help me???

[jenmito]

23. Read reply #21 n/t

[ChiciB1]

29. Thanks A Lot! Pree-She-Ate It!

If The Idiot has a "hissy" it will only show how much of a REAL Dictator he is, or all of them are!!!

[jenmito]

30. Thank thepurpose...but you're welcome!

:D And I agree with you.

[ChiciB1]

31. OKEY DOKEY! n/t

[jenmito]

33. Sorry if that came off as rude. n/t

[ChiciB1]

35. I Didn't Think It Was Rude!! I Just Say That A Lot When I'm Having

fun! I also use the slang Yeppers too! Generally I'm a real stickler for proper uses of words, but we all have our little "things" and another one I use is the one in my reply to you.

It's been a long six years, I know ALL of us here at DU go at it from time to time, but for the most part I rarely take offense to anything.

Nope, didn't think it was rude... never entered my mind.

[jenmito]

36. Ok. Thanks for the explanation.

:hi:

[Imagevision]

38. Bush must keep Rumsfeld otherwise it's admitting he too was wrong thus

the number of killed US. troops falls also on the back of this whacko president.

[jenmito]

40. I agree...

But sooo many people want him gone!

[Imagevision]

39. 88% vote Rumsfeld must go on MSNBC vote meter

[Contrary1]

41. Rummy needs to stay...

until after the election.

[jenmito]

44. If he gets the boot after the election

Bush will be called a major flip-flopper by people in his base who still like Rumsfeld. It's a win-win for us.

[Imagevision]

42. The editorial will appear just one day before the midterm election

[Rockholm]

43. I got chills. * will probably not sleep all night!

I hope they all sink, not just Rummy.

[Contrary1]

45. 4+ hours later...

and Faux News online still not reporting this.

[jenmito]

46. Are you surprised?

Have they reported it YET?

[goclark]

47. Didn't I read that Bush is afraid to get rid of Rummy

because then there could be a HEARING on the war and they don't want that, especially if we control Congress.

[jenmito]

48. I don't know if you read it or not...

:D But that sounds about right. Also, it would be an acknowledgement of a mistake and Bush doesn't MAKE mistakes. :eyes:

[SouthernBelle82]

49. Nothing really new

Those generals called for Rumsfeld to resign and nothing. So I'm not holding my breath. It's good for the democrats though I think.

[jenmito]

50. This is a BIG nail in the coffin

of Rumsfeld and the Repub. majority.

[jenmito]

51. The Pentagon just responded to the call for him to be fired...

They said that this is actually old news and does not include commanders in the field who remain committed to the mission...blah blah blah...

[plusfiftyfive]

52. Who believes anything out of their mouths

The Pentagon, yeah, this is some poor slob on weekend press office duty in the Pentagon being ordered by Rumsfeld to state that!

Hi Jen!
Remember THIS old name for a friend of yours?

[jenmito]

55. About 30% of Americans seem to...

I know. YES I remember it. Wow-that was a long time ago! :hi:

(Welcome to the DU)! :D

[bluedog]

53. this is as close to a coup as we have

this history books will mark this...

As the moment sanity began to flow back into the halls of power.

To publish this kind of scathing critique in all four US Military Times magazines, on the eve of the most important election in modern American history, will go down as the boldest statement our military has ever made.

Make no mistake - this is as close to a coup as we have




http://dailywarnews.blogspot.com/

Today in Iraq blog



"THE MILITARY HAS SPOKEN. THEY HAVE MADE THEIR DEMAND."

[Cameron27]

54. They're so young

:cry:

I hope you're right and this really is the turning point, not for a military coup, but as an end to the bushwar.

[jenmito]

56. Typical how the WH/Pentagon is trying to act like it's no big deal

and "old news."