The Revisionism is Killing Me

[On the Road]

I've started to hear the line in the media and even here on DU that Dean was never really the front runner, he never really had all that support, the polls lied -- basically that it was all an illusion.

I'm sorry -- there are a range of opinions on who's responsible, but up until a couple of weeks before Iowa, Dean was clearly the front-runner, and if primaries had been held anywhere across the nation, he would have won handily and been the nominee, for better or worse.

How do I know? Despite what you're hearing, the polls were pretty well borne out by the results. Dean won in DC as predicted. In Iowa, he was running at 20% in the polls and came in with 18%. In NH, the polls showed somewhere from 5-18% back and he finished 13% behind. He has come in much lower in more recent contests, but none of them shold have been a shocker to anyone following the polls.

I think the media is trying to exonerate itself by pretending that the whole thing never happened. This infuriates me much more than the claim than Dean did it to himself.

[DenverDem]

1. Media mind control is now a science.

The consolidation of the media in the hands of the power elite is a radical conservative strategy begun by the traitor Raygun and has continued to the liar Colon Powell's boy today. A cultural revolution must be won against anti-American People global corporations on both economic and media fronts. We must return the control of the economy to The People and it must begin with decentralization and diversification of media ownership.

George Orwell was right, his timing was just off a couple of decades.

[loudsue]

8. No truer words were ever spoken...

I am SOOOOO sick of the mind-control games the media has played with our country. It has turned this country into a cheap tabloid mockery of a Democracy -- without honesty, dignity, honor or a semblance of truth.

Between the BLATANT BBV problems, and the BLATANT media mind-control problems, they're trying to force another revolution in this country. And they're going to get one, sooner or later, if it isn't turned around soon.

If we had the power to vote out the people in control of our country, we could vote IN those who would support "the people". But the media will do all they can to prevent the masses from understanding that their votes have been compromised. It works hand-in-hand: no votes, no truth.

Chicken and egg stuff. The well-funded, well-organized neocons have SUCCESSFULLY placed our country in a "Catch 22" position that is intended to make the populace throw up their hands in frustration, and become paralyzed and impotent. The "pulpit politicians" are increasingly to blame by putting "the fear of God" into church-goers all across the nation.

It's obvious. It's insidious. And it's time to stop it, by whatever means necessary. It's reaching critical mass.

:kick:

[jpgray]

2. The media LOOOVE to kingmake and pauperize

And when they pauperize you, they paint you as an illusionist sham who never had anything worthwhile anywhere at any time. :(

[OneBlueSky]

3. might want to check out this article . . .

it's by a Dean supporter, and addresses the issue you brought up . . .

Exiting Deanspace
http://www.corante.com/many/archives/2004/02/03/exiting_deanspace.php

[NashVegas]

4. I Read That Piece

It reminds me of all the pink tutu Dems who said Gore lost because he ran a miserable campaign, but somehow neglected to mention all the incessant lying from the press.

[NashVegas]

5. Don't Know if it Helps But ..

I've started to hear the line ... even here on DU that Dean was never really the front runner, he never really had all that support, the polls lied

This morning, I saw one supporter of another candidate come right out and say that when he first logged on here last summer, it was more like Dean Underground, and he purposely set about posting negative articles.

So, no, you aren't imagining things.

[On the Road]

6. Yeah, It's Just Like the Whole Thing Never Really Happened

People keep dismissing the DC primary because it was unofficial and most candidates stayed away.

But the votes by and large reflected the polls. Dean would have won in other states if the primaries had been held on another day. It really came to a matter of timing.

Lots of nasty stuff happens in politics. But the attempts to make the Dean phenomenon disappear in hindsight really sticks in my craw.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

7. I don't know who you are talking about who says 'the polls lied'

did anyone actually say that, or is it a product of your imagination?

Link?

[On the Road]

9. Product of My Imagination?

I heard a long editorial on NPR radio alleging that Dean's front-runner status was an illusion and that he never had nearly the level of support he was credited with. That's equivalent to saying the polls were wrong.

I have comments with the same flavor from at least two other sources this week.

People can take the position that polls are wrong -- it happens here all the time. But in this case I think it's historical revisionism, and it really bothers me.

[oxymoron]

10. Who is saying that the polls were wrong?

Sorry, new one on me.

[BigDaddyLove]

11. I read a piece somewhere over the weekend......

that essentially said that Dean was a creation of the media and didn't have as much 'grassroots' support as it seemed he had.

Personally I don't exactly agree, except to say that if he did indeed have as much grassroots support as one was led to believe then why is Kerry winning again and again?