Video: Group calls for new election in Sarasota

[flpoljunkie]

http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061115/VIDEO/61115029

Supervisor of Elections in Sarasota County said there was nothing wrong with the machines which recorded no votes. Trouble is, there is no way to prove her wrong, according to computers experts, like Avi Rubin. Bottom line, the Democratic candidate is screwed again by the incompetence of an election supervisor.

http://avi-rubin.blogspot.com/

What the vendors are doing is printing out the questionable results and then counting them. Of course they are going to match what was on the machine, but they do not provide an independent count. The so-called recounts of DREs are really just print and count, not RE-count. It is a waste of time.

Now, we hear that in Sarasota County, there were 18,000 undervotes in the race for the 13th congressional seat. The race is expected to be decided by fewer than 400 votes. If paper ballots had been used, the huge number of undervotes could be investigated. Without them, there is no recourse - no way to figure out why this happened. I have several theories. Perhaps that many people just did not care about that race. Unlikely in my opinion. Most likely is that the human interface, that is, candidate placement on the ballot caused many people to miss that race. The next possibility is that a software glitch caused votes in that race not to be counted. Finally, it is possible that someone actually did something to cause this. The problem with paperless voting is that we'll never know, and there will never be any way to find out.

[ChiciB1]

1. Did You See The Latest News?? Different "Design" Ballots Were

used, which of course IS LEGAL as Kathy Dent would say. Each Supervisor can use their own ballot design.

Funny HUH?? Seems like "butterflies" all over again to some extent! I can't explain the whole article here, but you can check it at the Tribune website!

AND... something else, I just saw a thread I posted on the 11-09-06 from DU and have NO IDEA how it got there. I got "outed" I suppose.

It's the third link down from the Tribune site. How would this happen??? I do know of one other person who has blogged at the Tribune and I've seen his/her name here at DU.

Guess I'm not going to get to help with the recount now... my name is "out" there!

Oh well, I would have been fair, even though I'm partisan, but so is the other side. Things are kind of messy here and when I called the campaign today they didn't have any new information even though Manatee didn't get to start their manual recount today. The paper said that the state didn't give them the go-ahead. Maybe they think we'll all just sit back an "do nothing" if they stall long enough. If that's what they think I hope they aren't holding their breath! I've heard others around hear talking about organizing for Protests if they stop the recount. And I'm NOT the one who talked about organizing a protest either, although I will go if there is one.

[flpoljunkie]

3. Can't find what you are referring to about your DU post. Did you vote in poll about new election?

[ChiciB1]

4. No... If You Just Put It In Your URL, The Page Will Come Up...

You know how you do a search for something and you get a page with a list of different sites. It's there! Not the first 2 above the line, look at the main link and then down a few and it will say "I SAY NOT!!!

I don't know "how" to do things like that. I just PM'd you, but I guess I erased it before I sent it! You had PM'd me yesterday and I answered. Anyway, won't answer that one now, but I don't care if it's out there, I feel it's important to let your voice be heard.

[ChiciB1]

2. Oh, And thanks For The Videos... I Just Watched Both Of Them.

I haven't heard ANYTHING for tomorrow's recount, I wonder if it will really start now.

There are more groups that will be meeting tomorrow too at the Hyatt from what I read in the paper. Is this a mess or WHAT??

Also, I don't care that my name got out there... we are supposed to be a Democracy, and this kind of voting reeks of a very foul smell!

18,000 plus votes... Oh I forgot, THE DOG ATE THEM!!