Clark's musical error? Blew off Little Rock band Evanescence

[mouse7]

Clark was trying to reach a younger audience, and the band that won best new artist at the Grammy's, Evanescence, is from Little Rock and has a lot of "anthemic" mainstream tunes just begging to be used in a campaign.

How could Clark play stuff like Journey and blow off a great hometown connection to some tunes that would have definitely played better to younger audiences.

(By the way, I don't know which category this goes in. I think it fits here just barely more than others.)

[Wickerman]

1. I gotta agree

and I have never heard Evanescence. However, Clark's choice of Journey leaves him VERY suspect in my mind. I'd have preferrednearly anything to Journey.

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[xultar]

4. I like Journey! Yes, I think Steve Perry has a fantastic voice...

YES...XULTAR likes Journey!

I can hear it now...go on..

[MaddogTerp]

12. xultar, you must be OLD!!!

;-)

[Wickerman]

21. lol Xultar. thanks I now have

nay nay nan nan nay stuck in my head, and that is a sound I never wanted to hear again! Yes, good pop voice, but horrid material. Kinda makes you want to light your bic, hold it high, and sway gently back and forth while some guy with a really bad haircut sings nonsense lyrics while a cheesey synth plays 3 notes over and over. :P

[Rooktoven]

28. even if his voice is good,

the material is entrely lame.
80s "wuss-rock"

[mouse7]

6. Here's some links..

Clark could have had songs from the soundtrack Daredevil playing as he entered, and gotten away with it because the kids are from Little Rock. It's too bad.

http://www.daredevilmusic.com/flash.html

http://www.evanescence.com/

[susanna]

35. I'm with you...

I'm older, but Evanescence is one of the few newer bands I really sat up and took notice of. (I bought the Daredevil sountrack just for them.)

I do like some Journey, but then they were big when I was growing up, it's more nostalgia for me. Journey just isn't "big" enough sound-wise for someone with Clark's presence and charisma. My two cents.

[vi5]

2. That band is a flash in the pan...

People are already starting to not care about them. He'd be better off embracing the Madonna endorsement than bothering himself with the Romeo Void of 2003.

Besides that band is heavy on the Christian tip so they may very well not be interested.

[Monte Carlo]

10. I don't know... that new song has 'crossover hit' written all over it...

You could be hearing it in dentists' offices and supermarkets very soon.

[arcane1]

11. a pop version of Lacuna Coil, IMHO

I'll take the real thing anyday :evilgrin:

[Colin Ex]

32. The difference is that Lacuna Coil is good. nt

[Screaming Lord Byron]

3. He might be wary of their overt evangelical christianity.

Like it or not, that sort of thing becomes an issue.
Also, their style doesn't suit Wes. Some Johnny Cash might work for him, perhaps.

[mouse7]

14. The Evangelical Christians are overtly pissed at them

Calling them traitors, Judases, etc. for doing mainstream music.

I don't think there is an agenda here. A LOT of kids started playing music at church. These guys are young, too. Lead singer is 20, I think. So they just moved out of their parents houses. Now we see if they grow.

[rucky]

5. GRAMMY Winner, Evanescence

Not much for their music, but it is another missed opportunity.

[Hoppin_Mad]

7. More Outkast ! 'Hey Ya' as campaign theme song - Babes shaking booty

That's the key to victory.

[Clark Can WIN]

42. HEY YA

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3659373613&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

[mobuto]

47. LMAO

I thought that was a frisbee for a moment. That's awesome.

Just so you know, Hey Ya, despite being a great song, isn't exactly appropriate for a major presidential candidate. The lyrics, "Just wan't to make you cumma" being prominent among them, don't exactly fly in Peoria. That may do it for Gert, but I don't think that works so well for the American people.

[britpopper]

51. Wes needs to ...

Shake it like a polaroid picture...all the way to the White House. Come on, people, Outkast just won the Album of the Year Grammy! I think my grandma has a Journey 8 track somewhere still. Let's get with the times. I'm not a big Evanescence fan, but they are more appropriate for 2004 than Journey! And I agree, we need to push the Madonna endorsement with some of her tunes (within reason). George Jones is already doing commercials for him in Tennessee! Let's Rock Wes!

[corporatewhore]

8. must of been still upset after losing willie to kucinich

;)

[returnable]

9. Evanewho?

File 'em next to Christopher Cross. They'll soon be sailing off into obscurity, too.

[mouse7]

16. It doesn't matter what they'll be tomorrow

It's how hot they are now, and Clark had a chance to tap that into his campaign.

That Daredevil song went quad platinum.

[returnable]

19. Is their core audience...

...even of voting age?

I don't think it was much of a missed opportunity. Celebrity endorsements haven't exactly tipped the scales in anyone's favor at this point.

[mouse7]

22. Endorsements have done little this cycle... but...

...I'm just thinking of that feeling I had in the pit of my stomach every time I heard Journey get cued up.

It's more a mood thing.

[pezcore64]

30. ....

christopher cross?

wtf?

what type of music is he?

hehe

[MaddogTerp]

13. Dude! Evanescence ROCKS!

:yourock:

[robbedvoter]

15. Evanescence - not a good name. Dunno the music, but the name...

[mouse7]

18. Here's the only name you need to know when the song plays

[PragMantisT]

17. I prefer Black Oak Arkansas

Maybe Halls of Karma/When electricity came to Arkansas

Or Jim Dandy to the Rescue!!!!

[Jerseycoa]

20. Jim Dandy to the Rescue! - that's perfect :)

Anybody E-Blocking Tennessee, be sure to invite folks to a free concert and rally tonight.

Leave it on voicemail and message machines, as well.

Nashville, TN
8:00 pm - Wesley Clark Greets Nashville Supporters With Country Star Jamie O'Neal
Capitol Ballroom
Sheraton Hotel
623 Union Street
Nashville, TN

[mouse7]

23. Took some work to come up with something worse than Journey

Jim Dandy to the Rescue... oh my.

[Bombtrack]

24. that band blows, and they already broke up, + the lead singers mental

who the hell cares what band a state is from unless it's a primary state

[jpgpenn]

25. Why use the words "Blew Off" and "Musical Error"

I happen to enjoy the music of Evanescence but maybe you should have wrote to his campaign headquarters and made mention of this. Perhaps they weren't aware of the group being from Little Rock, I know I wasn't.

[mouse7]

36. Considering how often bands from Little Rock go multi-Platinum...

...I would imagine their quick rise to the top, if anything, has been over-documented in Little Rock. As a matter of fact, I would imagine it's pretty hard find a place in Little Rock right now that their music wouldn't be getting played 24/7.

[Eurobabe]

26. Clark ought to sit out the dance routines

I just saw a clip on CBS News from the event in TN last night? Whoa, this man should just let Outkast do the jive for him.

I have more rhythm in my toenail! Love ya Wes, but'cha can't dance.

[BootinUp]

29. Yea they dogged him..."Hope he can close the race better than he..

Can Dance."

[Jerseycoa]

37. So true

He's game, but he should leave the dancing to anybody else on earth.

I read somewhere the campaign staff ridicules him all the time on his moves. :D

[MrSlayer]

27. Didn't they break up already?

I thought I heard on Stern this morning that they were all uncomfortable at the "reuinon" last night because of the break up.

[mouse7]

33. Guitarist left and replaced by guitarist from Cold

I guess the lead singer of Cold is in some desperate need of rehab, and refuses to go get it. So there's a new guitarist, but Evanescence has started to write for the next album.

[Colin Ex]

31. Evanescence blows. nt

[Jerseycoa]

34. What do you think of this one?

Radioroad West, Chris Tucker: "My band and I would like to dedicate a song to Wesley Clark’s campaign called Sort It Out."

Download:

http://www.radioroadwest.com/music/Sort%20it%20Out.mp3

Website:

http://www.radioroadwest.com/page3.html

[mouse7]

39. Point of thread wasn't really "picking" a Clark song

I just happened to noticed you have this red hot band that had a songs on 9 figure box office superhero flick. The band just won a Grammy. The band is from Wesley Clark's hometown. The band writes mainstream anthems.

Seems like a perfect match.

[Jerseycoa]

40. So did you listen to it? nt

[mouse7]

41. I will in a little while.

Dinner is almost done.

[mouse7]

48. It 's a good song... not mainstream enough for that use, though

What I like and what's effective for mainstream use are two different things.

[mitchum]

38. But they're just a creeping Jesus goth lite act

Hell, even the wretched Journey is better than that

I can't believe I typed the words "Journey is better"

[thelocalkgb]

43. Jesus goth is my favorite genre

I wouldn't feel comfortable with any Christian band being featured at any rally for any Dem candidate. The Christian music industry is.. well, that would take a whole other thread.

[mouse7]

49. Pardon me, but is Christian agenda responsible for Daredevil?

Ben Affleck acting? Kevin Smith with a walk on and writing a Daredevil comic book storyline?

Let me repeat that... Ben Affleck and Kevin Smith of DOGMA fame?

The kids in Evanescence are just kids that used to sing church stuff while in high school. They are out of that scene now, and are clearly mainstream now.

I'm from the South, and ran 3000 miles to escape the South. There's probably very few more wary of the Christian agenda on this board. However, you do what you have to do to get out. They probably had the Evangelical Christian church shoved down their throats by their parents. The minute they had an opportunity to get out, they did. Amy Lee is all of 20. She just moved out of her parent's house in Little Rock. She'll grow.

[mvd]

44. Evanescence is one of the good mainstream bands, but..

I don't know for sure if they are Democrats. If so, it would work and show Clark to be up with things.

[Tim_in_HK]

45. Jesus, who cares?

You think people are going to vote for him if he chooses Evanescance? Do you think people are not going to vote for him because he chose Journey? Do you think people will vote for him because he referenced Outkast in his Rock the Vote video?

All campaign songs are cheesy.

[mvd]

46. Well..

"Don't Stop" was a good one, and Kerry's "You've Got a Friend" is a good one.

Clark's already shown some hipness musically in the debates, but not everyone was watching, so maybe Evanescence could help somewhat.

[mouse7]

50. It actually surprising how often campaign songs are referenced.

This isn't a new thing. Campaign songs are an old tradition.

Just pointing out Clark had the opportunity to be associated with a very hot new band and play music from a superhero movie and get away with it because of the hometown connection to the band.

If a candidate can get away a subconscious connection to a comic book hero, why not?

[windansea]

52. I vote for Little Feat

not from little rock but oooo sooooooooo goooooooood!

talkin bout Lowell George Little Feat

[tkmorris]

55. LOL I love Little Feat but

I keep trying to come up with a song for Wes to use from them and it's giving me a headache. I'm pretty sure a rousing rendition of "Don't Bogart that Joint" wouldn't fly :)

"Feets Don't Fail Me Now"? I like "Dixie Chicken" too but....... well. Maybe not.

:evilgrin:

[tobius]

53. just got to say

that evanescence is awesome-

[phrenzy]

54. KAK

Evanscensce are a bunch of thumpers. Like 'Creed' or 'Jars of Clay' they are regurgitated 'real' music but with all the 'bad' stuff taken out. Yeah, and their duet with that other timeless group 'Linkin Park' was one for the ages.

gag.

Just go watch the South Park episode where Cartman, Token and Butters starts a Christian Rock band - it's dead on:

"It's easy, you just replace the words, 'baby' and 'honey' with Jesus"