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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:02 PM
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Yup - The DLC support Dean alright ! Heres some of their support
Most Americans understand and support our country's long tradition of international leadership and collective security.

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Most of the major presidential candidates have met this crucial condition. But the one outlier is the front-runner, Howard Dean.

Gov. Dean's foreign policy speech in Los Angeles got more attention than others for two reasons. First, it was telegraphed by his campaign as evidence of his repositioning as a "centrist" on foreign policy. And second, it contained the deeply unfortunate assertion that Saddam Hussein's capture by U.S. troops did not make America safer. That line was not just another trademark "off-message" ad-lib by Dean, since one of the speech's key weaknesses was a glaring disconnect between his defiant defense of his opposition to the war in Iraq, and his efforts to make it clear he supports the use of force to defend America's interests elsewhere in the world.

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That's not the only disconnect in Dean's speech. . .

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But there's no central vision or architecture holding these proposals together. Dean called the war on terrorism his central preoccupation, but spoke of terrorism, rogue states, and weapons of mass destruction as abstractions, not as real threats emerging from specific people and places.

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That's why John Kerry was justified in charging that Dean espouses a "'Simon Says' foreign policy where America only moves if others move first." And that's why Joe Lieberman was justified in arguing that "Governor Dean has made a series of dubious judgments and irresponsible statements in this campaign that together signal he would in fact take us back to the days when we Democrats were not trusted to defend America's security."

The most succinct line this week about what America needs to protect and advance its interests and values -- and what Democrats should stand for -- came not from a presidential candidate, but from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY): "We need a tough-minded, muscular foreign and defense policy, one that not only respects our allies and seeks new friends as it strikes at known enemies, but which is understood and supported by a majority of the American people."

That's also a good prescription for the message Democrats must embrace to win the argument with George W. Bush on foreign policy and national security in 2004.


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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:15 PM
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1. Dean was in the DLC pulling the party further right while governor.
Thankfully, liberals like Kerry were there and pulling leftward, or the whole party would be centrists like Dean pushing for deregulation of electricity, the appointing of conservative judges like Dean, and advocates for the NRA.
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chocolateeater Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:22 PM
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That must be why they
have been so nasty to him, at least since last summer. They want to fool us into thinking he is an outsider instead of part of the establishment. (sarcasm off)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:22 PM
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2. Kerry was in the senate for 19 years wondering which direction to point
Dean has always been socially progressive and fiscally conservative and a pragmatic politician who wanted to make institutions work better for people. He may have made mistakes but his intentions were noble.

Kerry excelled at saying he'd show up for a vote on an important matter but then not show up. Kerry is not my kind of a leader.
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library_max Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 06:14 PM
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6. Kerry's voting record says otherwise.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-04 10:38 AM
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7. After making a big deal about voting against the Rx bill, Kerry
didn't show up on the day of reckoning to vote against it.

That is so typical of Kerry.
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Hoppin_Mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 04:28 PM
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3. As usual no LINKS to back up your assertions - Lets SEE some -nt-
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:03 PM
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4. Deleted post
Edited on Mon Feb-09-04 05:05 PM by Freddie Stubbs
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-09-04 05:06 PM
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5. The DLC
sent out reprints of newspaper clips that were derogatory to Dean (mostly the angry and anti-war stuff ).
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