Who are your top three choices for 08'? Mine are Clark, Gore, or Obama.

[Clarkie1]

Although I must say I'd be more comfortable with Obama in the VP slot at this stage on the national level, and I'm still a little uneasy about Gore, as much as I admire the guy, being able to deliever something beyond a close one (don't want any more of those cliffhangers).

Who are your top three?

[Old and In the Way]

1. Kerry / Clark / Gore ....in any order.

I'm a Kerry guy, but I'd be happy with any of these 3. Edwards, too (although, I'd like to see him as VP). Obama needs to show me a lot more. He's nice with the words, but how tough is he? What's he accomplished?

[Clarkie1]

3. That's why I think Obama would be good as a VP.

He's a very good speaker, and I think he would do well in the VP role and it would make him a potentially stronger presidential candidate later on.

[Old and In the Way]

24. Do we really want to make the VP into an "on the job training" slot?

I think we are going to need to very strong and adept people as POTUS/VPOTUS. The VP will need to be as strong and capable as the President, you never know when the unthinkable could happen. One will need to be be focused on international issues, the other on domestic issues. It's going to take an extra-HD twosome to deal with the mess after the current criminal clowns are driven out. Maybe Obama "has it"...I just don't know much about his record. But if it is a "learn on the job" type role...not sure we can afford that.

[Clarkie1]

56. Good point. nt

[WinstonSmith4740]

28. I was thinking in the same direction.

I'd still like to see Gore run, but he might be seen as "damaged goods". Even though Richard Nixon was able to come back in exactly the same time frame, he didn't have to deal with today's political climate. You just KNOW the repugs would trot out the "sore loser" label.

Obama has a LOT of appeal, but I'm still not convinced this country is ready for a black president, or for that matter, a woman. I still think all the hype surrounding Hilary is being fed by the Rove machine...I'm sure with her baggage, they'd love to face her in 2008.

So for me, I'd go for either Clark or Gore at the top of the ticket, Obama in the #2 slot.

[Blue_In_AK]

44. Me, too. :)

[NewYorkerfromMass]

47. Kerry Gore Clark

but Hillary actually would be OK with me.

[politicasista]

51. Them are mine too

:bounce:

[sandnsea]

48. Me too

Really Kerry or Clark for me. Gore has been attacked quite alot over the last couple years and hasn't done anything to challenge any of it, so I don't know that he really gets it yet. I'm not sure DUers are really aware that the attack waiting for him will rival the attacks made against Dennis Kucinich. It will be ugly ugly ugly.

[UrbScotty]

2. Clark, Edwards, Gore (nt)

[KingFlorez]

4. Clark, Gore, Hillary Clinton

[Pithy Cherub]

5. Clark, Gore, Obama.

Clark is my clear favorite though it will be no hardship to support the other two.

Nothing like diversity, Two heavyweights and a newbie.;)

[More Than A Feeling]

6. I haven't decided yet,

although I have to admit that it was kind of sad that Bayh, Dodd, Daschle, Biden, Gravel, and others didn't have anyone say the best thing about them on my thread asking for candidate supporters to say the best thing about their candidate.

[FrenchieCat]

10. Bookmark your thread......and copy and paste to bring it back next year.....

Cause the way things change in politics based on the uncontrollable facts on the ground, the media's quirky personality, and Youtubes.....yo never know! ;)

[More Than A Feeling]

16. Good point.

Perhaps interest in Barbara Boxer for president will revive. I was a Feingold fan, and Boxer has done things that that remind me favorably of Feingold.

[FrenchieCat]

26. Just remember that Boxer likes Clark.....

quite a bit! Just so you know!

http://www.newmediamusings.com/blog/2003/12/sen_boxer_atten.html



Clark's conversation with Barbara Boxer.
http://securingamerica.com/printready/boxer_clarkcast42306.htm

http://www.energybulletin.net/15587.html

[FrenchieCat]

7. ditto for me--Clark, Gore, Obama,

the Clean guys who knew too much too soon, aka, the prescient ones.

[TwentyFive]

8. Lieberman / Zell Miller / Sarcasm

[Cameron27]

9. Interesting!

Mine are the same; Clark, Gore or Obama.

[FrenchieCat]

13. That's cause none voted for the "you know what"......

So that can become an "kick their ass" issue when attacking McCain, and them! :thumbsup:

[Cameron27]

27. I agree,

a "kick their ass" issue it is, and although I doubt whether McCain will get the nomination, it sure would be fun to see the General take the little SOB down.

[Connonym]

73. Gore, Edwards, Dean

I was really hoping for Feingold. Already had a bumper sticker on my car even. I'm disappointed he's not running.

Dean even running is a long shot but I love the guy.

Clinton and Obama should both hold off until they have more experience. They're both young enough to have a lot of potential elections in the future. My gut instinct is that Clinton has too many haters and it will be hard to overcome that. With Obama, I think the pugs must think he's a threat or they wouldn't already be getting nasty with the middle name thing. Another couple election cycles and further distance from 9/11 I think he'll be the man.

[samfishX]

11. Just Gore.

I really don't think there are any other candidates who are up to snuff AND can hold their own.
Obama is the only other interesting prospect for me. But he's not ready. He'd made a fantastic VP, though.

Did anyone see that slime ball on Hardball tonight, BTW, who referred to Obama as "Barak Hussein Obama"? Why the HELL don't people CALL these right-wing freaks on the mat for shit like that?! If a Democrat compares Bush to Saddam on national TV, the reich-wing would throw a shit fit and you can bet we'd hear about it.

I'd actually really like to see Gore v. Gingrich in 2008, though. Gingrich is a scumbag through-and-through, but to his credit he, like Gore, is the only person on the Republican side with any vision.
It'd be great to have an election where both candidates are at least running for SOMETHING, rather than the middle.

[More Than A Feeling]

12. Perhaps he will go up against Willard Romney n/t

[Cameron27]

14. That's his name,

Barack Hussein Obama, not sure what your upset about.

[samfishX]

17. Sorry, I didn't know.

Sue me.

The connotation was clearly there, though.

[Cameron27]

18. S'ok, if I didn't know, I would have been upset at MSNBC too.

:thumbsup:

edited for spelling

[FrenchieCat]

21. Barak is fully aware of this. It ain't gonna help him, but he understands

the program...if not, he'll understand it soon enough. This is what repigs do. Nothing new there! :shrug:

[FrenchieCat]

15. Actually that IS Barak's full name......

Barak Hussein Obama.

[Pithy Cherub]

20. pssst,

Barack...:)

[FrenchieCat]

23. Funny....I spelled it that way initially....and changed it based on the

way the poster spelled it. Thanks! :pals:

[Pithy Cherub]

19. Rethuglican race and religion baiting

as per their filthy usual. That dog won't hunt.

[lwcon]

37. As a wise-ass...

I have to admit it's a tad amusing that BHO's first name rhymes with Iraq, his middle name is "Hussein," and his last name rhymes with "Osama." I agree that emphasizing any of that, especially gratuitously bringing in his middle name, is a low blow. But outside of serious discourse... if FDR's name were Hermany Hitler Mubolini, you'd kind of have to notice.

What's in a name? Who cares.

But here's what I do care about...

As a believer in the separation of church and state, I'm not amused about Obama's religiosity. He's a charismatic guy, and he might make a decent candidate, but his smarmy exploitation of, and kowtowing to, organized religion gives me pause.

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[Comicstripper]

60. Nah

Trust me. I hate religion. I am a radical atheist. I consider religion to be the worst creation in history, followed by diarrhea. But we NEED someone who's open about their superstition. It makes us electable. That sounds shallow, but it's actually realistic. Less than half of Americans surveyed by Gallup said they'd consider voting for an atheist (I think it was 49%). Seventy-some percent said they'd consider voting for a homosexual. Keep it in mind.

[lwcon]

71. Not good enough

Even Jimmy Carter, a devout evangelical Christian, has a far more nuanced position about religion, and he's a huge proponent of the separation of church and state. He's also written a compelling book about how the rising American theocracy is endangering our country:
http://www.amazon.com/Our-Endangered-Values-Americas-Crisis/dp/0743284577/sr=8-2/qid=1164907209/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-8920948-5335238?ie=UTF8&s=books

Obama is doing some sleazy tricks to play the God card, and it does not impress me one bit. It's also going to backfire. These narrowminded rubes are not going to vote for a Democrat, even if he sells his soul to the devil called organized religion:
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2006_11_01_digbysblog_archive.html#116477587845753808

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[Hawkowl]

75. Bingo

Obama is way slicker than slick Willie. He's a calculating opportunist. I've followed his career since the 90's when he was an UNDISTINGUISHED Illinois state legislator from Chicago's Hyde Park area. It was commonly known that Obama is all about Obama. This guy has done nothing. He hasn't even talked the talk consistently in a progressive manner. And his religious conversion is a sham. Albeit a shrewd sham, but it reminds me of shrub way too much. At best, I guess it means to me that his core beliefs are suspect. At worst his core beliefs are summed up in "I want to be Pretzledent and I will say anything to get it". I hope I'm wrong.

[sandnsea]

49. Gingrich has vision??

Oh I am all ears. What possible vision does he have that isn't looking directly backwards to 1890.

[oldgrowth]

22. Gore and VP Clark

[SaveElmer]

25. Clinton...then probably Bayh and Obama...nt

[More Than A Feeling]

29. Would you care to say the best thing about Clinton and Bayh?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2987970

[Eurobabe]

30. Unclear in which order yet: Clark, Obama, Dark Horse

[tenshi816]

31. You nailed it.

Those are mine too. Like you, I would prefer Obama as VP. I'm an admirer of Wesley Clark.

[Leilani]

32. Clark, Gore, & maybe Obama

I'd like to learn more about Obama, but I like what I see.

[Guaranteed]

33. Gore, Clark, Edwards, in that order. nt

[zalinda]

34. Gore/Kerry is my only choice

Gore/Kerry would make a dynamite team. Gore has a real vision and Kerry would kick ass in foreign relations. We are in a huge crisis, globally. And I can't think of two more qualified men to put out the proverbial fires than these men. I think we, as a country, would gain the respect of the entire world if these two ran the country.

zalinda

[cleveramerican]

35. Gore is the wildcard

I think he's the only one who can get the nomination away from Hillary, and he better come out swinging. The old safe Al will not do.

Obama is a new face which the electorate loves, and he's young, also loved by voters, but he will have to run a near perfect campaign to wrestle the nomination away from the two heavy hitters, Hillary and Al.

[lwcon]

36. Gore/Feingold in '08! n/t

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[LWolf]

38. I don't know if I'm that solid at this point.

There are some I'm interested in, but don't have enough information on at this point. That will change the order.

I'd have to say my top 3 picks right now, in no particular order, would be Gore/Schweitzer/Kucinich.

I have questions about Gore's current positions on NAFTA/CAFTA; that could move his position lower. I'd like to know more about Schweitzer's position on issues outside of Montana. He could move lower. I know everything I need to know about Dennis' record and positions on issues; he's solidly in the top of any list, any time.

Others that might move up, should Gore or Schweitzer move down, include Boxer, Conyers, maybe a few others. We'll see.

[karynnj]

39. Kerry, Gore, Bayh

The reasons for Kerry or Gore have been stated millions of times. Someone asked about Bayh, so here are my reasons

He was a 2 term Governor in Indiana

He impressed me in the questioning recently on the Armed Services Committee - where he asked excellent well formulated questions allowing General Abizaid and the state Department guy to answer - unlike HRC who pontificated and rattled off at least 3 questions in a stream before letting them answer.

His record, though more conservative than I would like, is very liberal for Indidana.

He is a nice guy, though bland.

He also likely comes with a man I would have liked to have had run for President in 1976 (he dropped out because his wife had cancer) - Birch Bayh.

If I had a fouth it would be Obama - my hesitation there is not negative but a feeling that I don't know enough about where he really stands. If he becomes the nominee though, from what I do know I could easily support him.

[seabeyond]

40. kerry/ clark/ open... would like feingold, but he said no n/t

[nickshepDEM]

41. Edwards, Obama, huge gap....... Gore, Biden.

[dancingme]

42. Clark, Gore, Obama

I think Obama's huge star power would be too overshadowing for any VP position. He is the main show.

[izzybeans]

43. I don't have one yet.

I like most anyone so far except for Bayh and I will only vote for Hillary in the general election if she gets the nomination. I have this hangup with the "all in the family" approach to politics. But if she wins the nomination I will concede my stance (temporarily) against elite families and their political dynasties when it comes to the executive branch. It borders too close to oligarchy for my democratic soul to take. That's why Bush was disqualified for me before he even opened his mouth to form a presidential platform in 1999 (other than the fact he was a republican and at the time my youth lent me the belief that indendents meant being open to the other party). But i'm willing to take one for the team on this one. I like Hillary. I do. It is not her. It is me.

Beyond that I see an open field of pretty strong candidates; much, much stronger than anything I see from the republicans. I'll happily take up the role of cheerleader and canvaser for candidates when that road must be crossed. I want to see them actually do something with their power for now, first. Then I'll decide on favorites (which gives Gore a leg up on the rest IMO since he has the freedom to pursue policies and action without the constraints of elected office). I'm in wait and see mode.

[savemefromdumbya]

45. Gore as he needs to get his presidency back

that was stolen from him. At least we should give him that?

or maybe he doesn't want to?

[BlueIris]

46. Kerry, Clark, and I Don't Want to Pick a #3. Seriously.

Oh, alright, fine, John Conyers.

Actually, that's my best dream ever.

[Zavulon]

50. Gore and Clark, nobody else.

I want a guaranteed win and that's what these two would give us.

[Infinite Hope]

52. Gore then Edwards then....Clark? n/t

[janx]

53. Gore, Gore, and Gore.

I'm waiting to find out if he'll run. If he doesn't, I'll reassess the situation.

[jen4clark]

59. Janx!

Is that your doggie? What kind of dog is that? So beautiful!

[janx]

62. That's one of my doggies. He's a weimaraner.

That's his classic puppy pic. He is grown now--his head is in my lap. ;-)

[jen4clark]

65. Awwww.

Thanks. He's very handsome.

[warrens]

54. Obama, Gore, Clark

But as always, whoever wins the primaries is my guy/gal. I'm not so much an ideological democrat as a virulent Repuke hater. Any Dem is better than the best repuke, because even a relatively good guy like Hagel or Lugar is going to give power to the fascists whether he wants to or not.

BTW, Kerry would be in my top 3, but I doubt he's going to run.

[Leftist78]

55. Edwards, Gore, distant third for Obama (nt)

[Comicstripper]

57. Obama, Edwards, Clark

1) Barack Obama- The most inspiring political figure since RFK.
2) John Edwards- Sincere, southern, charismatic, cares aboue poverty.
3) Wes Clark- Stellar bio and real appeal. Sound-minded.

I'll take Hillary, but I won't support her in the primares. I'm convinced that she would be a competend president (you have to respect her ambition and her brains) but I'm not so sure how she'd be as a candidate.

[election_2004]

58. Clark, Bayh, Richardson

That's in random order, although learning toward possibly supporting Clark if he runs.

[jen4clark]

61. Clark, Gore, Unknown

Obama, not sure of. Will have to see what he does in the Senate and learn more about him. So far, I think it's way too early for him to be thinking about running for President.

[rep the dems]

63. They're probably my top 3 as well.

Feingold would probably be in place of Obama if he hadn't decided not to run.

[youthere]

64. Clark and Gore..no third choice.

[DaveinMD]

66. top three in no order

Clark, Edwards and Obama.

[rocktivity]

67. Clark or Gore in that order

with Obama as their running mate.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Pirate Smile]

68. Gore, Obama, Clark.

My strong preference is for someone who came out against the Iraq War before it started.

[Alexander]

69. Gore / Dodd / Obama.

I, too, would be more comfortable if Obama waited, if Dodd hadn't initally voted for the war, or if Gore wasn't in favor of NAFTA.

But we can't always get what we want, and although there are flaws with every candidate, I think these three are the most likely to turn potential negatives into positives and get elected.

[Pirate Smile]

70. kick

[paulk]

72. Kerry, Clinton, Gore - in no particular order

except I don't think Gore is going to run.

I like Clark, but I just don't see anyway that he gets the nomination.

[AZBlue]

74. My top three choices for 06: no more discussions of who might be running, who might not be,

who might wear blue tomorrow and who might not even be in politics in 08. Until candidates start declaring themselves as such, all this chatter and talk is inane.

[jgraz]

77. But we're all about the inane chatter

[jgraz]

76. 08? Gore, Clarke, Edwards. 07? PELOSI!!!

Does anybody think Gore's not gonna run after last night?

[Hawkowl]

78. Gore, Clark, Dean

I know Dean says he won't run, but what the hell it is a wish list.