Dean stays in, does this mean 3rd party?

[waylon]

"We are going to find a way to stay in, one way or the other."

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040209/pl_nm/campaign_dean_dc_25

Think he will change teams so to speak? Im not sure what to think about this.

[aldian159]

1. I hope not

and I don't think so.

[Mass_Liberal]

2. no

he's probably referring to Wisconsin. Dean himself is a Democrat, and has said specifically that he will not run as anything else.

[waylon]

5. Yes but,

he also said he would drop out if he didnt win Wisconsin. Is he changing gears?

[creativelcro]

6. I hope he goes 3d party and picks up a good %

it may the best way for the country. Everybody can see he's not welcomed by the Dem party...

[waylon]

11. It might wake us up in 08 but can/should we wait that long?

I think you are right, it would kick EVERYONE in the pants but Im not sure if this is the time to do it.

[formernaderite]

33. Is there ever a good time?

Not according to the two status quo parties. I am very disappointed with the ill treatment Dean has gotten from the press who was nudged by the powers that be in the democratic party. Rove and company were literally begging for Dean, and MacAwful flinched. Of course everyone says Rove is brilliant...he used a simple reverse psychology on the DNC and they did the dirty deed for him.

[RoeBear]

15. Why would you want him to do that?

He couldn't win as a third party candidate, and would only take votes away from our eventual nominee.

[waylon]

21. I wouldnt

But, the above post makes a good point. I think we tend to sacrifice principles for electability. Not that Ive been a huge supporter of Dean, but, until today he was at least principled and consistent. I can get behind that.

I dont blame him for changing his mind but Im wondering how far he will go to keep up the fight.

[MercutioATC]

3. NO. Dean's in a Democratic race and has said repeatedly that he won't

go independant.

[rucky]

4. No, but if we keep asking the same question over and over again...

maybe we'll get a different answer.

[waylon]

9. This question is in light of new developments

Its not like im rehashing yesterday's events, is it? And its a valid concern, 3rd party candidate equals defeat in 04. I would think that is of concern to us all, even Kucinich supporters :)

[MercutioATC]

14. Well Kucinich isn't dropping out either. Will HE run 3rd party?

I'm just making a point. Of course he won't.

[maddezmom]

10. it's the Wolf Ditzer technique

:eyes:

[pezcore64]

7. NO

NO
everyone stop with the dean going green or 3rd party threads!

HES NOT GOING TO DO THAT

HE WILL SUPPORT THE DEM NOMINEE

GIVE IT UP ALREADY!


GO DEAN!!!

[patricia92243]

8. If he runs third party, I'll vote for him.

[KaraokeKarlton]

34. Me too, and I'll write him in if he isn't on the ballot

I'm supporting Dean all the way up to and including the general election, regardless of who is or isn't on the ballot. I won't vote for anyone else at this point.

[chocolateeater]

12. Dean will not go 3rd party.

I think he just talking about staying in the nomination process.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

13. Your concern is debunked in the first paragraph of the article

GREEN BAY, Wis. (Reuters) - Democrat Howard Dean (news - web sites) said on Monday even if he loses Wisconsin's Feb. 17 primary he will remain in the race for his party's 2004 presidential nomination. emphasis added

I HATE it when Kerry's words are quoted out of context by others and I equally repel the tactic when done to other candidates.

[waylon]

17. I hate it when candidates arent consistent!

One week he's out after Wisconsin, next week he's staying in regardless....what conclusion should we draw here?

Would it surprise you to hear next week that he is jumping out of the D camp and forming his own ticket? Wouldnt surprise me, but maybe Im cynicle.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

18. He's doing it to keep his opponents off balance

It's a strategy. Regardless of what I think of him...he's allowed to strategize and raise funds.

[waylon]

23. I agree

And maybe its a good thing. He might stay in and beat the crap out of bush every chance he gets. But he might continue to jump ugly with Kerry and that is not helpful.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

25. Thus far, it's only proved unhelpful to Dean

I don't see that trend changing.

[DontBlameMe]

22. Ok, wait a minute!

If his supporters asked him to stay in, what should he do????

If his supporters don't feel he's wasting their money........?

[waylon]

26. Depends on what his goals are

If he is running for the good of the country, he should drop when he knows he has no chance at the nomination. If he is running for his supporters, he is on his own, literally.

If he is all about himself and his fans, he isnt about change, that is for sure. If he wants to change the country, we have to start at the top.

[DontBlameMe]

19. Good for you!!!

I may not be for Kerry, but I hate it when people use comments out of context!

ABB, when it comes right down to it!

[tom_paine]

16. Oh God I hope not!

If that happens, we can kiss the American Experiment goodbye as we sail off into the Inky Darkenss of Orwellian Imperial Bushevik Totalitarianism.

Free America has NO margin of error if it is to be restored.

I like Dean. He was my 2nd choice...a close second, and I would have happily worked on his campaign and doanted and all that stuff. Indeed he was given the Imperial Pravda Treatment. He helped with tha scream, but it was like the Party-Loyal Bushevik Sub-Media and the Corporate TV Pravda that floats lazily in it's scummy wake were just WAITING for something they could do a number on.

He has every right to be pissed, but damnit, everything that makes this nation good, different and free is at stake here.

For all our sakes, and the sake of Liberty, I hope Howard Dean doesn't go that direction.

[EXE619K]

20. You can all thank Al Fromm and "Stop Dean" movement!

If it happens.

[mzmolly]

24. Given the fact that he has said on numerous occassions he will support

the Dem nominee, I'd say no. :eyes:

[w13rd0]

27. OMG, excuse the hell out of us...

...for not seeking a crowning of the king. I wrote Dean and told him that his 'grassroots supporters' DEMAND that he stay in, until the convention, if he must. Does that mean I want him to run 3rd party? Hell no. Dang, can you imagine what these people not being completely unhinged by Dean's tenacity would have done were WE calling for Kerry's withdrawl from the race when he was loaning himself money to stay in and polling less than Sharpton. Get over yourselves. On to Boston we march.

[GodHelpUsAll2]

28. WOW

I couldn't have said that better myself! Well done.

p.s I sent a letter also. On to Boston!

[candy331]

29. Well it could wind up being the second party

because the Democratic party is heading in the direction to being a national party no more and especially if they lose the election in November they may die......

[John_H]

30. C'mon, lighten up folks. Dean is providing excellent comic relief

uring a tense campaign season. First all those 25 dollars contributions from poor college kids going to fund the Trippi Mega Millions lottery. Now the Denial.

[eyeswideopened]

31. Thank God...I am going to donate to his campaign now

Why are they trying to call this so early. He reinvigorated the democratic party this election and he should not roll over for the beltway boys by quiting now. The longer he stays in, the more of a statement we the American people make about how the media cannot control us.

[WhoCountsTheVotes]

32. What did all these Dean fans say about Nader in 2000?

I wonder?