Seriously- what is with all the prez nom 2008 threads?

[Guaranteed]

Now, to tell you the truth, I'm not against discussing presidential candidates pretty early in the season, "per se."

But I honestly don't get this. It seems like half the threads in this forum are just going over the same thing again and again, poll after poll, who do you want in 2008? who do you want in 2008? You can't get away from them. I think it's just getting old.

We don't even know who's running yet. I'm happy with a lot of the people out there that could run. I'd prefer Gore, but we have very little idea about whether he's going to do it. And Clark? He's great too, but we have even less an idea there. Has anyone even asked him the question? I have heard ZERO info on that. Could we be more speculative?

We have work to do, folks. We're taking over the House and the Senate. What should the Democrats DO with our newfound power? We have problems up the yin-yang. Let's figure out how to fix our country.

I don't mind threads every once in awhile, just to check up on the horserace. But, come on. It's just getting irritating as hell. There's no point, even.

[JI7]

1. i went through the shit in the last Primary

so i know it has little affect on the real world and mostly ignore it now. but it really does get tiring.

just wait for the "OMG , did candidate x really say ............." type threads.

i look forward to the debates and appearances and discussion of what actually happens then. but you are right, we have gained a lot of power and we should use it and do some good so we can give reason to the people in future for why they should vote for us, no matter who our candidates are.

at the moment i'm looking forward to the new Congress coming into session with DEMOCRATS in power.

[Guaranteed]

2. I was pretty heavily involved in the last primary, so I'm going to have

to excuse myself and everyone else on that one. But we actually had candidates, then. There was at least a reason for everyone to be breaking into camps and bickering and whatnot.

This stuff- this pre-pre-primary stuff- I dunno. I just feel like we're wasting a serious opportunity.

It's kind of like, since we've been through the worst of it, we're starting to rest on our laurels a bit...??? Starting with the infighting over totally pointless stuff.

Do we really recognize what we could potentially do, now? Controlling Congress is pretty darned good. Yeah, the Presidency is nice too- gives you a figurehead to identify with- but that's not really what's important here.

[thatsrightimirish]

3. Once the session of the new congress starts

Then I think we will start talking about other legislative things. Since we were just talking about elections for the past 5 months we still want to talk about elections. And right now there isn't a whole lot to talk about. But again once our new majority takes power the posts will be different.

[Counciltucky]

4. Clark's seriously considering running again.

He's spending a lot of time in Iowa and also talking about not repeating the mistakes he made in '04. Sounds like a run to me.

[thatsrightimirish]

5. i think you are missing the point of this thread

[Counciltucky]

7. Yeah true...

I don't partake much in General Discussion, though. I was just addressing the line about having less of an idea as to whether or not Clark would run.

[ClassWarrior]

6. You're not as loony as you look, my friend...

:evilgrin:

Yeah, it really does seem way too premature, pointless, and distracting.

NGU.

[derby378]

8. I think part of it is that Democrats don't want a repeat of 2004's fiasco

John Kerry, recipient of three Purple Hearts from his tour of duty in Vietnam, should have been a slam-dunk against Bush. But those were the days when Karl Rove was still "The Architect," and Kerry's campaign never could find a way to neutralize Rove or define the issues on their own terms.

[Guaranteed]

9. Yeah, we definitely don't want another 2004. I can understand

the anxiety, feel it a bit myself.

Things have really changed, though. I think we have to keep moving forward in our mindset- we need to set a serious agenda. We have to move from that reactionary mindset to a positive one. I guess part of that is thinking about our 2008 nominee. But we've really got to determine our vision for our country and start implementing it.

[dweller]

10. it's to get the infighting gung-hoed...

and once the blood and sweat and tears are flowing, the Kucitizens will be quietly promoting DK, his policy, his news releases, statements, etc ... and when ya'll are too beat to fight each other anymore, you'll just realize Dennis was right all along.

:evilgrin:

diabolical, idn't it?
dp

[Crunchy Frog]

11. Lot's of people have asked Clark if he's running

and his answer is always along the lines of "I haven't said I'm not", which is a pretty good indication that he is thinking very seriously about it. He has said that he will likely make a definitive decision shortly after the start of the new year.

I'm personally not at all surprised by all the '08 threads. People have been champing on the bit since the day after Kerry conceded. All that time people have kept saying that we need to focus on '06. Well, '06 has now passed, and people are now focusing on '08.

Frankly, I wish people would hold out a little longer. I have horrible memories of how nasty things got last time around. Human nature is what it is though, so I'm not surprised by all the '08 threads and expect to see them proliferating more and more. It looks like we're all going to have to just buckle down and prepare to be irritated until a nominee emerges sometime in the spring of '08. Depending on who it is that emerges, I'm certain that many of us will continue to be irritated. I hope we can at least pick a candidate this time around who will actually beat the Republican, otherwise we're all going to be irritated even longer.

[Spangle]

12. 2008 election starts the day after the 2006 election

I know it doesn't seem like it, but that is the reality. Most people only think about elections, about a month before they go vote. But it takes a long time getting to 'the day.'

The first step is finding the canidates to run for office. Those that are qualifed and are electable. Sadly, not all who are qualifed are electable. Figuring out if a person is electible isn't easy.

If a lot of money needs to be raised for the race, that has to start early. So the canidates all ready need to be 'out there" sniffing to see if people are willing to back them. IF there is enough early support, then they might have a chance. If the early support isn't there, then canidate knows not to run.

I like several canidates, but I can only afford to give a little bet to one canidate. Same with the big money backers. They don't generaly donate huge funds to all of them. They should, but they don't.

So no one has step forward to exactly say they are running in 2008. But there are a few all ready doing the leg work. Those who are intrested in being involved are paying attention as well.

In 2002/3 Gore decided not to run. Personaly I think it was because he didn't 'see' the early support. Without it, he wouldn't stand a chance. Since he didn't 'see/fell' it, he might have assumed the wind was blowing a different direction. Unknown at that time, no one else was going to see it as well. All the major backers was setting back trying to figure out the 'wind.'

So the 2008 election season has all ready started. Canidates are considering running, getting support in key places. People are deciding if they are going to support canidates with $$$ or with time. The local, state, and national partys are all ready raising funds. The process never ends. But everyone does seem to go home and forget about it. Just leaving a few to do the work...

[aquart]

13. If I wanted people to be distracted and divided by trifles, I'd use this technique.

So far as I'm concerned, it's trolling.

[Bucky]

14. It could mean people here are hopeful for (and hungry for) change.

[dmosh42]

15. This is a sounding board for grassroots Dems...

So there's always going to be people floating ballons to get reactions to 'their guy'. I don't mind it too much, as long as we have posts to discuss the other important issues for the next year.

[fujiyama]

16. LOL

I'm reading this thread and cracking up.

We just win the midterms and BAM! We're off, you've got Vilsack and Bayh declaring....

And DU just goes nuts...and this nonstop speculation is just getting tiring...though a lot of it could just be this fear of Hillary getting the nomination, which the media has already declared as the front runner.