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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 01:45 AM
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Obama Favors Universal Healthcare and Battling Global Warming
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/11/us/11obama.html?_r=2&n=Top%2fReference%2fTimes%20Topics%2fPeople%2fN%2fNagourney%2c%20Adam&oref=login&oref=slogin">Obama Offers Flavor of Potential Campaign

In another article I read, he said he will decide on running for President based off his reception in New Hampshire. Well, if that's the case...you can consider him in. Obama seems big on enviromental issues like Gore, but it's something he'll need to elaborate on when/if he runs.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:25 AM
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1. But...But...
He's a Conservative according to a bunch of people here...


Oh and he also voted for the bankruptcy bill (even though in reality he didn't, but the Obama haters seem to have their own facts).
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 02:50 AM
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2. Mr. Big on the Environment might want to rethink his strategy on ethanol
"Ethanol distilled from sugarcane is much cheaper to produce and generates far more energy per unit of input—eight times more, by most estimates—than corn does. In the nineteen-seventies, Brazil embarked on a program to substitute sugar ethanol for oil. Today, every gallon of gas in Brazil is blended with at least twenty per cent of ethanol, and many cars run on ethanol alone, at half the price of gasoline."

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"What’s stopping the U.S. from doing the same? In a word, politics. The favors granted to the sugar industry keep the price of domestic sugar so high that it’s not cost-effective to use it for ethanol."

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"the Bush Administration proposed eliminating the ethanol tariff this past spring, but Congress quickly quashed the idea—Barack Obama was among several Midwestern senators who campaigned in support of the tariff—and the sugar quotas appear to be as sacrosanct as ever."

http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/articles/061127ta_talk_surowiecki

So Junior outscores Obama on ethanol. There's one for his resume. :eyes:
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 03:22 AM
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3. If I never hear that bankruptcy bill BS again, it'll be too soon!
Edited on Tue Dec-12-06 03:23 AM by Withywindle
Even from my own father, who definitely ought to know better.

When you can see Obama's BIG HONKIN' NAAAAAYYYY vote in black and white if you just go to senate.gov.

There's got to be some web site out there spreading that lie as if it were true...

...and if so, I want to know who's paying for it.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 07:51 AM
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4. And what is his actual position?
Obama it seems is not in favor of a single payer universal health care system such as is found in almost every other major industrial democracy. He is not in favor of extending medicare to everyone. Instead Senator Obama is in favor of incremental reform that would keep Big Health Co profits intact.

"Even so, Obama said that although he "would not shy away from a debate about single-payer," right now he is "not convinced that it is the best way to achieve universal healthcare." "
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060626/sirota/3

Obama here is playing both sides of the fence. He uses the words 'universal health care' but not their common meaning.

I haven't done the research on his position with respect to global warming. Perhaps somebody else can shed some light on this.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-12-06 08:53 AM
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5. Single payer isn't currently politically possible.
There would need to be a transition phase. You know and I know that single payer would work better, but it'll take 1-2 intermediate steps to get there.
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