Who are the rethugs the most afraid of in 2008?

[caledesi]

My own opinion after trolling freeperville is that they were so afraid of Hillary, now the big fear is Obama. You can tell by the amount of threads and the endless, repetitive comments from OxyRush.

I may have forgetten some running. Feel free to include under OTHER.

NOTE: Not your favorite candidate, but who you honestly feel scares the rethugs.

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[MrModerate]

1. Sure they're afraid of Obama . . .

He's well spoken and not batshit crazy or sociopathic, which puts him up on any of the leading 'Licans.

But Obama is scary because he's hot right now. And maybe he'll stay hot and be taking the Oath of Office in January 2009.

But it's still Hillary they're most afraid of, and once Obama cools off a bit, you'll see that fear reemerge.

[caledesi]

2. That is what the Bugman Delay predicts: Clinton/Obama fwiw nt

[monmouth]

3. Obama has made it very clear he is not running for VP..

[Clark2008]

10. That's why they keep pushing him down our throats?

Hardly.

The media won't mention the person they're most scared of.

(P.S. I don't dislike Obama, at all. I just find your logic a bit off.)

[caledesi]

15. Clark has his own mouthpiece on Faux. It drives the freepers nuts. nt

[Radical Activist]

30. They must be most afraid of Kucinich

by that logic.

Actually, I think that's true of the corporate media, who don't want his ideas getting to the public. I don't think that's true of the Republicans in general.

[Red Zelda]

4. They're usually most afraid

of who they talk about the least.

[caledesi]

6. That hasn't been my experience. They can't wait to smear

Hillary and Obama. They are afraid of the least mentioned? Laughable. There are so many threads about Vilsack. :sarcasm:

Furthermore, why is it that the rethugs are sending out the "swiftboat" brigade to find "dirt" on Obama?

They are disgusting - telling others to find "dirt" on someone.

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[Red Zelda]

38. You're fooling yourself

They don't give a squat about Obama, who couldn't be elected president of his street.
They're scared shitless of Clark, Gore, etc.

Obama is nothing.

[Telly Savalas]

44. If the Right is afraid of Clark, why does FOX News employ him

giving him free air-time?

[Clark2008]

11. BINGO!

:applause:

[caledesi]

14. BTW, I there are a decent amount of threads about Clark.

They hate him of course. I Like Clark.

We have so many great candidates. Must be driving the rethugs crazy.

Clark
Clinton
Obama
Edwards
Richardson
Gore...list goes on.

Who do they have? Uh, McCain (who neo-cons hate); Guiliani? (he is so liberal)...the list goes on. They are not happy with any of their candidates.

[HootieMcBoob]

5. clark of course

that's why he's ignored.

[ooga booga]

7. I believe that Clark will flip some red states

Pretty scary stuff from a Republican point of view.

By the way, the name of the game will be flipping Red states to Blue to capture that all important 270 electoral votes.

We gotta capture the White House this time, gang. Your guy. My guy. Whoever it is. We gotta get the big one into the boat this time.

[FrenchieCat]

8. Clark....as it is as if he doesn't exist, this 4 star Democratic General during times of war....

Maybe they ignore Wes because he is such an oximoron based on the very carefully cultivated CW? :shrug:

Here's my longer answer, if you care:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2983884&mesg_id=2984064

[lojasmo]

41. Meh...fighting dems got less than 10% wins

Military experience doesn't mean anything to the electorate.

[Clark2008]

9. A Southern general with a populist message who isn't afraid

to get back in the faces of the Republicans and their media lapdogs?

The person they're most scared of is who is most viable, yet gets little to no mention in the media. Think about it.

[BikeWriter]

43. No shit. The war busted the GOP's chops. Clark is number one...

on the list of people equipped to get us out of there.

[tulip]

12. FR Bayh, Bayh ,Bayh

They know he's got a clean record and they fear him. They have been trying to figure out ways to attack him since he made Kerry's short list in 04. Free Republic coined the term Bye Bayh. So whenever I read that phrase on a liberal board I know they are doing their job at selling negative info on Bayh on the net.

From FR site:

"He is our biggest threat. Bayh would carry Indiana. With Richardson as V.P they would also carry N.M. That's two Red states turning blue."

"I gotta agree with other Hoosiers here. Bayh did a few good things in the past (like sponsoring the president's Iraq War resolution in the Senate). But he's done a lot more that's harmful, and now he's gone way off into the fringes of the left."

"He's hugely popular here. Just won re-election with over 60% of the vote."

"Indiana was a strongly red state for Pres. Bush.
A real opponent for Bayh needs to be found."

"IN MY HUMBLE OPINION:

1) he's nice looking (and don't say that doesn't count for anything anymore); 2) people remember his daddy; 3) he graduated from IU; 4) when he and his wife (Barbie Doll) had their twins while Pretty Boy was in office, the Indianapolis media (biggest and most powerful in the state) made a huge deal over them; the media family facade continues to this day.

I voted for Pretty Boy the last two times he has run for office. Today, I am really upset at my decision to support him. Planning to drop a taxpayer e-mail his way this afternoon."

"Yup. He has sided with the nuts of the party."

"I have called in several times ton Garrison's show to say that he is NOT a moderate. He talks "Hoosier values" in Indiana, then does whatever the Rat bosses tell him to.

He probably thinks he is safe because he just got reelected. I also think he is going to run in 2008 for the presidency.

We had better have a charismatic guy to run against him. He will be a formidable opponent."

"In his first term, he voted against President President Bush's tax plan, John Ashcroft's nomination for AG, and other measures.

At one point Senator Bayh would appear on MSNBC Hardball on the left with Katrina and the rest of the Red Army.
But in Indiana he is still considered it's golden boy.

I will actively work against his presidential primary bid if he announces one."

" Put down that blue highlighter and step away! Indiana for Bayh would represent a tremendous and ahistorical Rep to Dem swing. In order to get nominated, Bayh will have to leftify himself beyond Hoosier recognition. The Republican candidate will hopefully not be without his own appeal.

Way too soon to be handing Red states out to any Dem Ticket."

"Evan has successfully positioned himself (pretended) as a moderate in the Bill Clinton mold. Most here know he is a true lefty, but he is not likely to be unelected anytime soon ...

Actually, he could be a threat on the '08 ticket as a VP. The MSM would adore him as a 'moderate' from the heartland, etc."

"Actually, he could be a threat on the '08 ticket as a VP. The MSM would adore him as a 'moderate' from the heartland, etc.

They said the same about John Edwards not too long ago."

[Clark2008]

13. That's nothing to fear - hell, we might as well be voting

for a Republican if that's what his record truly is (and I don't know - this is from the Freeps, after all, who aren't necessarily the smartests policy wonks in the jar).

[caledesi]

16. Bayh is a red herring. Puhleeze... Hey C2008, notice that these

are all the "fear" responses. There are some that just say Evan who?

[snowbear]

18. As a fello' Clarkie, I have to agree with Tulip on this one..

The question has nothing to do what Democrats think about our candidates, but which ones the THUGS would fear the most.

Bayh is incredibly intelligent, and an unbelievably eloquent speaker. If he runs, he could do very well with moderates, centrists, and Independents.

THAT is the very type of candidate the freeps don't want us running. (Which is what the question was)

My guesses on who they would MOST love as our candidate is: Clinton, Kucinich, Kerry

My guess on who they would not like to see competing with whoever they wind up with is: Clark, Bayh, Edwards

Richardson? I'm not sure about just yet..

The questions is hard to answer this early out because we need to see our candidates on the trail. PLUS --- we don't even know yet what our final list of candidates will look like!

[tulip]

20. I'd agree with Edwards & Clark

I would have to wade into freepville again to explore my hunch. I think freepers may feel able to fight Clinton and Obama if they put up McCain. I like Clinton & Obama alot but I'm trying to think like a freep.

Probably the ticket they'd fear the most against a McCain ticket might just be Edwards/Bayh. The next feared ticket may be Bayh/Clark.

[FrenchieCat]

23. I might agree on its face.....however, in looking at that pairing closer (edwards/Bayh)

Picturing Bayh as Edwards' pit-bull Veep or viceversa is a hard image for me to conjure up.

I just don't see how Edwards and Bayh's (both voted for the IWR) become a threat to McCain/Giuliani, as they both would be trying to outhawk the hawks to prove their "Manliness". :shrug:

They may both be somewhat good looking (to those with that sort of taste), but I don't see the gravitas that would "scare" freepers or the media when it got right down to it.

[Clark2008]

36. More importantly, who could tell them apart?

[tulip]

37. Add Clark to the mix and.......

They all look like they could be catalog models. But that's not the question. It's who the other side fears. And I think they'd fear a Bayh/Clark ticket big time.

Quick comparison.....

Bayh/Clark: Well liked Dems From Red States in the Midwest & South, Clark: Retired general who led NATO and led missions in Vietnam wounded 3 times, Rhodes Scholar,& Clark is signed on and infiltrated Fox News, Bayh: Senator on the Intelligence, Armed Services, and soon to be on the Energy Committees, Special Committee on Aging, helped Indiana go blue in 06, attended state school IU and law school Univ. of Virginia and a former governor.

McCain/Giuliani: West and North East... Senator, veteren, POW, Armed Services Committee, Senate on Indian Affairs, Committee on Science, Commerce & Trans. Giuliani: Time person of the year, NYC mayor, cut crime in NYC significantly & both are a little more to the middle...and support several pro Dem issues.

If I was in Freepville I'd be concerned about a Bayh/Clark ticket. The quotes in my first post are from Free Republic on Bayh.

[caledesi]

21. Well stated. I specifically said to vote for the candidate that

rethugs will fear most, not your favorite.

Evan Bayh? Right. He's smart, but a cadaver.

BTW I am not exactly a Clarkie. I haven't decided yet.

I used to be a Deaniac, but we do know how that turned out. He's in the right place though.

I like Obama and could easily visualize a _______/Obama ticket. Oh yes. Exciting, no?

[Clark2008]

35. Then you missed my point.

Why would they be scared of Bayh. If those are, indeed, his positions, then they'll HAVE a Republican president. Why wouldn't they like him?

[IndianaGreen]

22. Bayh is as exciting as a vibrator in need of new battery

Tell Mama, I'm for Obama! :-)

[snowbear]

32. Yoo Hoo... Indiana... Bayh has a question for you.....

"Can you repeat what you just said?"



...."Did you REALLY compare me to a broken vibrator!?!?"

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[MrTriumph]

17. Who are Republicans most afraid of? A special prosecutor.

x

[IndianaGreen]

19. The GOP is confident that their Gawd, Guns, and Gays axis of propaganda

will come through for them once again, although it failed in 2006.

Honestly, I don't know who the GOP would fear the most. If Iraq is a total catastrophe in 2008, as I expect, the GOP should fear all of the Dems listed on this poll.

I voted for Gore, because he has a command of the most important national security issue in the century: global warming!

[timetoleave]

24. I think Gore...

because he is the one a lot of republican talking heads say they hope we put up.

[leftofthedial]

25. George W Bush

[IndyBob]

34. Indeed, Bush and his idiocy

are becoming ever more apparent. The ship is sinking, time to remove the cement shoes.

[nickshepDEM]

26. Probably Gore.

The results of the poll are laughable though.

[FrenchieCat]

27. Why are the results laughable? Just asking?

[snowbear]

31. Well....

I laughed at whoever selected that Kucinich was their biggest fear.

I mean.. I seriously like the Congressman. But as presidential material?

It would be a kick for the person who selected him as the THUG's biggest threat to explain why they think so..

[GreenArrow]

42. no, they don't fear Kucinich

but they do fear what he represents. And the really funny thing is that so does the Democratic Party establishment.

If you go back and read the post where Kucinich was mentioned as the greatest threat, you'll notice that the suggestion was offered with a certain amount of irony.

[MrSlayer]

28. General Clark.

They aren't afraid of Hillary or Obama, they want Hillary desperately to be the one because they know they crush her and they have a ton of material to use against her. Obama too, would be easy for them to slander by playing the race card and the Islam card. Clark, on the other hand, has no real weak points for them to exploit, is highly qualified and would fight them at every step. A real leader who knows how to talk to red America is their worst nightmare.

[Radical Activist]

29. They don't fear Hillary. They hate her.

And they want her to be the nominee. Their hate-radio jocks have been bashing Hillary for so long its just kind of an automatic thing. The toy has been wound up and they'll keep going for a long while.

[catnhatnh]

33. George Bush N/T

[election_2004]

39. Bayh

Because despite their best smear attempts, they know that several of the swing states that are inaccessible to Hillary and Kerry would break in Bayh's favor.

[otohara]

40. The "New" Fighting Al Gore

He's so smart and angry, but channels his anger into awesome speeches. Has a great sense of humor and he will win dems & independents over.