Anti-abortion group: Stop 'heretical' Pelosi from going to church

[meegbear]

An anti-abortion group is lobbying a Washington, DC Catholic Church to stop Speaker of the House-designate Nancy Pelosi from attending mass, RAW STORY has learned.

Rep. Pelosi, the California Democrat who will become the first woman to be Speaker of the House, is scheduled to attend mass at Washington, DC's Trinity College on January 3, 2007, the day before the 110th Congress opens. Trinity is an all-women's school from which Pelosi graduated in 1962.

But the American Life League wants Washington's Archbishop Donald Wuerl to "prevent (Pelosi) from using the Mass for political gain," and has called on him to deny Pelosi Holy Communion. ALL argued that "Rep. Pelosi has been unwavering in her support for abortion and is downright defiant toward the Church's teachings on the sanctity of human life," and added, "it is shameful that Trinity College, a supposedly Catholic institution, has turned a blind eye to the heretical views Pelosi embraces."

The American Life League has previously called on the Catholic Church in the United States to deny Holy Communion to other politicians who favor preserving abortion rights. During the 2004 presidential campaign, anti-abortion advocates also encouraged the Catholic Church to deny communion to Senator John Kerry (D-MA).

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Antiabortion_group__Stop_heretical_Pelosi_1219.html

[liberal N proud]

1. How highly Christian of them - preventing someone from being saved

Organized religion is a hypocrisy

[tanyev]

2. Gosh, looks like they're using the Mass for their own political gain.

:banghead:

[rodeodance]

3. gawds. and they are homegrown!

[teenagebambam]

4. Yeah, good luck with that.

I heard a great homily in a DC Catholic Church, back when they were trying to deny Kerry the Eucharist. Basically telling people like this to shut the f*** up. If you start denying communion to people who don't agree with every Church teaching, you'll be serving communion to NO ONE.

[napi21]

5. So why do they think she is using the Church for political purposes?

Keep the Church OUT of Government, and the Government OUT of the Church!

[Warpy]

6. Yeah, only PERFECT people can be allowed into churches

and we all know how PERFECT the American Life League members are likely to be.

Where is their god when we need him the most, to write down the sins of all the stone throwers for all to see?

[BOSSHOG]

7. Burn her at the Stake. Blow up her house. Kill her family

That's what "christians" would do. Nancy Pelosi isn't promoting abortion and "christians" aren't happy unless they are hating or planning their next round of martyrdom.

[eyesroll]

8. Aren't all "sinners" welcome at mass? Just not communion?

I'm Jewish and have been welcomed at mass. (Obviously, regardless of my views on abortion, I wasn't to take communion.)

[yellowcanine]

9. Isn't the decision to take communion in the hands of the communicant?

Someone help me out here. Would it not be highly irregular for a priest to deny someone communion? Only the individual knows the status of their spiritual condition. The onus is on them, not the priest. Is this not so?

[MrCoffee]

13. no, not at all...

in the Catholic Church, the church can issue an interdict (local or personal) which prohibits the sacraments from being administered in a region or to an individual.

[yellowcanine]

21. Unless the Church has excommunicated Ms. Pelosi, I think not.

[MrCoffee]

27. Interdiction is a "lesser penalty" than excommunication

there are levels of "punishment" under the canon law. a person can be prohibited from receiving the sacraments and not be excommunicated.

[KingFlorez]

10. Who are they to ask someone to be barred from church?

They call themselves Christians, yet they exhibit such divisive and demanding behavior.

[bcoylepa]

11. stupid stupid people

I don't think they can keep her from going to church - the church can refuse to give her communion but not keep her from church
for the life of me I cannot figure out why any thinking woman would want to remain a part of the Roman Catholic church- or thinking gay or lesbian person
why go where you are not treated equally?
having said that ( and having 12 years of catholic school myself)let them try - Nancy can respond with honesty and inclusiveness and remind them that she is responsible to uphold the law of the land.

[sallyseven]

12. Do you think that is why there are so

many people leaving the catholic church? The demands are not logical nor in keeping with Gods love of humainity. The bishops and the pope should just shut the heck up.

[Hoosier Dem]

14. This is why I left the Catholic Church...

These are the kind of people that the Catholic hierarchy caters to now: extremist nuts who single out ONE issue (abortion) as a litmus test. I wonder if they would feel the same way about Jeb Bush, a Catholic who supports the death penalty, which is in conflict with the Church's teachings.

Or how would the Catholic Chursch feel about Mark Foley and his prediliction for under-age boys. Whoops! Bad example there!! :evilgrin:

These are the same kind of Christian Taliban that were picketing Kevin Smith's "Dogma" before the movie was even screened!! No wonder the Catholic Church has millions of ex-Catholics in the US.

[KansDem]

15. Looks like "the nuts" are at it again!

He says some of the nation’s most prominent evangelical leaders were known in the office of presidential political strategist Karl Rove as “the nuts.”

“National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and just plain ‘goofy,’” Kuo writes.

MNSBC

Haven't you heard? You've been dismissed by your "leaders" in DC. You're ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and ‘goofy!' In short, you're irrelevant!

[merci_me]

16. How about a trade-off

Maybe they have a priest there or can import one from a neighboring parish, who is one of the pedophile
priests who continues to say mass. Then he could give her communion, if she'd accept it from him.

They don't seem to have a problem letting the the pedophile priest continue on. They just "transfer" them around. Ever wonder about the life of the priest who gives you communion, marries you, baptizes your baby, gives last rites to you parent? Well, the Church doesn't seem to loose sleep over them performing the sacraments.

[kestrel91316]

17. She's a heretic!! She's a witch!!! Burn her! BUUURRRNNNN her!!!!

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

28. She turned me into a newt!

I got better...

[transeo]

18. I'm sorry, but is this 2006 of 1406?

WTF is wrong with these people? Will they ever emerge from the dark ages? Good grief.

[ComerPerro]

19. at least she goes, which sets her above and beoynd many Repigs

[ElboRuum]

20. As a "former" Catholic...

Under Catholic dogma, there is no such thing as a "former" Catholic except in one case, where the church itself decides to expel one of its membership, also known as excommunication. In other words, your baptism was a lifetime membership card, always kept in good standing provided you follow the forms. Forms being you must accept the sacrament of penance via confession before you may accept the sacrament of communion, etc. This, of course, is left up to the discretion of the individual. Now unless Pelosi's received a letter from Pope Benedict XVI or one of his minions informing of her excommunication, then there is no reason for her not to attend church.

What the ALL conveniently forgets is that local dioceses depend on the inflow of weekly donations to continue church upkeep and to keep the nuns and priests fed (as well as supplementing any Catholic schools' funding). By denying people communion because of external pressures, they run the risk of offending people and choking this influx of cash. The local dioceses know which side their bread is buttered on. While I believe these natterheads need to be called to the carpet for presuming to tell the church leadership what it expects of them in the interest of punishing its politically inconvenient members, I also believe that this is a great flap about very little.

[LynneSin]

22. Yeah they've tried that with Kennedy, Biden and even Tom Ridge, when he was Governor

there was a massive list of Catholics who are pro-choice.

People basically ignored them.

The irony is each year when Wilmington has their yearly Italian Festival held in conjunction with the biggest Catholic Church in town, Biden always makes a big appearance the first day and usually is part of their parade. They love him here in Delaware

[Mad_Dem_X]

24. Didn't they also try it with Kerry?

I seem to remember around the time of the 2004 elections, there was some kind of dust-up about Kerry taking communion. Maybe I'm remembering wrong.

[wicket]

26. You remember correctly

n/y

[LynneSin]

29. I think anyone who was Catholic and pro-choice was targeted

:D

[SaveElmer]

23. As a "recovering" Catholic I can say...

That the hieracrchy of the Catholic Church is not only making the church irrelevent, but in many ways, and on the whole in my opinion, is a force for evil.

Any church that would deny contraception to populations ravaged by AIDS is acting for evil...

Any church that would conduct purges of its current and future leadership based on their sexual preference is acting for evil...

Any church that advocates forcing children that are the victims of incest or rape, to bear the children conceived as a result of that crime is acting for evil...

Any church that would deny the sacraments to one of its members because of their political affiliation is acting for evil...

And on, And on, And on...

[wicket]

25. Are they going to prevent pro-war people from receiving communion too?

:eyes: