MrCoffee
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Wed Dec-20-06 03:51 PM
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Poll question: True or False? |
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A successful impeachment includes conviction by the Senate.
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Wed Dec-20-06 03:53 PM
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but I'd change the wording to a successful case. Impeachment, as I understand it, is like an indictment in a criminal case. Conviction or non-conviction completes the process. To a prosecutor, conviction would be the successful completion.
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Wed Dec-20-06 03:54 PM
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One can be impeached without being convicted, ergo one can "successfully" be impeached.
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Wed Dec-20-06 03:54 PM
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3. A suffusion of Yellow. |
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Or, if the poll had offered it, Other.
A successful impeachment is in the eye of the beholder. Are we talking technically successful, pragmatically successful, or ideologically successful? Each one could have a different answer.
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Wed Dec-20-06 03:57 PM
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4. Technically successful...ideology be damned. |
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Impeachment for the sake of ideology is what the House Republican'ts did to Clinton.
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:03 PM
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5. Technically, it's not even a matter for voting. |
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If impeachment is passed by the house, it's technically successful. That's just fact. The senate then has the responsibility to either remove the president from office or not, but that can only happen with a successful impeachment so their would be no question regarding success, just a series of events.
I'm honestly not trying to start a flame, but I'm a little confused as to the purpose of this poll now.
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:15 PM
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11. The purpose of the poll... |
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It occurs to me that in my many discussions of impeachment, there are wildly differing expectations of the process. I probably could have phrased it better, but the point is to see how we define a successful impeachment.
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last1standing
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:25 PM
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13. Ok, that makes sense now. |
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:27 PM
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14. i knew i'd get there someday! |
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:06 PM
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6. thanks for the flashback |
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Seared on my brain is Henry Hyde skipping gleefully from the House to the Senate with the Articles of Impeachment. Ugh.
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MrCoffee
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:08 PM
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7. here's some Clorox...wash your brain thoroughly |
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it's the only thing that'll get that out.
i'm really sorry.
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:11 PM
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:08 PM
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8. I won't be satisfied with half-measures |
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Bush and Cheney need to go. The sooner the better.
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:11 PM
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9. Yes, because the alternative |
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would be for bush to leave office in January 09, tell the new president its all in his lap now, have a nice day and fuck you very much. He is a total failure with not one day spent being held accountable for anything. Hell, if he got a blowjob from an intern in Times Square, "christians" would give him a pass, even after he lied about it.
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:21 PM
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12. False - impeachment by House still stands even if Senate votes against REMOVAL. |
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Wed Dec-20-06 04:32 PM
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15. A suffusion of yellow, once again |
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