Meat Packing workers/Construction Workers no Different from Jews, Irish , Italian

[KoKo]

and Asian Immigrants who worked to BUILD AMERICA!

Going after these workers that the Corporate America allowed in to work for CHEAP is in the American Tradition of USING those who come looking at "Statue of Libery" as a "beacon for hope" and then making them work in Sweat Shops, Textile Mills, building the Railroads, as Mids and Butlers and then in Factories." They worked and educated their kids for a better life.

The History of AMERICA is CHEAP LABOR...which benefits those who came BEFORE who MADE IT!

The Neo-Cons have a Point. Pushing Democracy and allowing Corporatists/Money Bags to use America as the "Door to Democracy" has always been as "Martha used to say" ..."A GOOD THING!"

Also getting American wages lowered to compete Globally for the "Think Tanks" was a "VERY GOOD THING!"

What do YOU THINK about the crassness or perhaps pragmatism of America's RULING SOCIETY? :shrug: Are Democrats not understanding the POWER OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND SPREADING DEMOCRACY?

[Fridays Child]

1. The history of immigrant labor does not provide cover for...

...human rights and civil rights abuses. Whatever else anyone may believe about the issue, that must be acknowledged.

[cornermouse]

2. If they arrived here legally, I have no problem.

If they broke the law to get here, that's a different matter. You know, there was a time when we respected the fact that we had laws to protect us.

[KoKo]

4. People came here looking for a "better life." Was it worse to have family STARVE

than to subject yourself to INHUMANE CONDITIONS? Who decides what's HUMANE and INHUMANE....It's all the "eyes of the worker/immigrant and what inhumane things they were fleeing from...and THIS is how the Neo-Con Utopians always GET US BY pushing folks like the CLINTONS."

:-(

[Monkeyman]

3. The Graves of the Irish workers are still along the Canals

Cheap Labor has always built this Country on their graves

[KoKo]

5. But...don't we all enjoy the results of "Cheap Labor/Invasion and Occupation"

that we did to our "Native Americans?"

BTW...sadly, some of my folks were here just after the American Indigenous Population's Slaughter and others were here who fought in the Revolutionary war........

:-(

[cornermouse]

6. My folks were here as early as 1630 through 1857

The early ones (a few years after the Mayflower) were English, those who came later were German and Irish. What's your point?

As far as the other point that they're coming here for a better life; that's out of date. The job opportunities are in their own countries, not ours. Frontiers and elbow room doesn't exist any more unless we start immigrating to other planets. Logic indicates we can only support a certain number of people before we suffer the same fate (starvation, disease, and epidemics) as the countries which are notorious for having an overcrowded population.

Something you may not be really aware of is the fact that farmland is disappearing at an incredible rate as cities expand. I'm not that old and I can remember when there were only 3 or 4 houses on each section in the country. That's not true any more. Instead, you see a lot of often mowed lawns (added pollution) where crops used to grow.

Lack of farmland translates to less wheat, corn, and other food crops. For corn, added pressure is the push for ethanol which will have an effect on corn prices and availability.