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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:01 PM
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New WashPo op-ed piece by John Kerry: "When Resolve Turns Reckless"
Edited on Sat Dec-23-06 08:25 PM by mloutre
Whether or not you like the guy, whether or not you believe he should run for President again, whether or not you think he should have his own special on Comedy Central or anything... you have to admit that he has a big brain and he knows how to use it.

Senator John Kerry made a conscious point of not discussing Mr. Bush's points or policies during his trip abroad, but now that he's back it seems the gloves are off. Here are some choice excerpts from Kerry's guest op-ed piece in this weekend's online Washington Post, which see at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/22/AR2006122201182_pf.html ...


I say this to President Bush as someone who learned the hard way how embracing the world's complexity can be twisted into a crude political shorthand. Barbed words can make for great politics. But with U.S. troops in Iraq in the middle of an escalating civil war, this is no time for politics. Refusing to change course for fear of the political fallout is not only dangerous -- it is immoral.

I'd rather explain a change of position any day than look a parent in the eye and tell them that their son or daughter had to die so that a broken policy could live.


Amen to that, y'all. Sacrificing lives for a necessary evil is one thing. Sacrificing lives for an inflated ego is something entirely different... and something entirely reprehensible.

No one should be looking for vindication in what is happening in Iraq today. The lesson here is not that some of us were right about Iraq or that some of us were wrong. The lesson is simply that we need to change course rapidly rather than perversely use mistakes already made and lives already given as an excuse to make more mistakes and lose even more lives.

When young Americans are being killed and maimed, when the Middle East is on the brink of three civil wars, even the most vaunted "steadfastness" morphs pretty quickly into stubbornness, and resolve becomes recklessness. Changing tactics in the face of changing conditions on the ground, developing new strategies because the old ones don't work, is a hell of a lot smarter than the insanity of doing the same thing over and over again with the same tragic results.


Amen, again. Goddess save us all from the arbitrary Madness of King George.


We cannot afford to waste time being told that admitting mistakes, not the mistakes themselves, will provide our enemies with an intolerable propaganda victory. We've already lost years being told that we have no choice but to stay the course of a failed policy.

This isn't a time for stubbornness, nor is it a time for halfway solutions -- or warmed-over "new" solutions that our own experience tells us will only make the problem worse.


"Gee, honey, this approach of mine didn't work worth a damn last time and it still isn't working worth a damn now. So I think maybe we should keep on doing it for a while longer, don't you?"


Conversation is not capitulation. Until recently, it was widely accepted that good foreign policy demands a willingness to seize opportunities and change policy as the facts change. That's neither flip-flopping nor rudderless diplomacy -- it's strength.

How else could we end up with the famous mantra that "only Nixon could go to China"? For decades, Richard Nixon built his reputation as a China hawk. In 1960, he took John Kennedy to task for being soft on China. He called isolating China a "moral position" that "flatly rejected cowardly expediency." Then, when China broke with the Soviet Union during his presidency, he saw an opportunity to weaken our enemies and make Americans safer. His 1972 visit to China was a major U.S. diplomatic victory in the Cold War.

Ronald Reagan was no shape-shifter, either, but after calling the Soviet Union the "evil empire," he met repeatedly with its leaders. When Reagan saw an opportunity for cooperation with Mikhail Gorbachev, he reached out and tested our enemies' intentions. History remembers that he backed tough words with tough decisions -- and, yes, that he changed course even as he remained true to his principles.


Hey, now, wait a minute. Isn't that the same Ronald Reagan who turned a not-so-very-blind eye while his own governmental minions sold lethal drugs to American kids so they could buy even more lethal guns to give to radical revolutionaries in South America and the Middle East so they could bail out a bunch of kidnapped American civilians while fostering a group of armed thugs that would later turn around and crash planes into the World Trade Center?

Oh, yeah, that Reagan. You know, the one that the Republicans who got b*tch-slapped in '06 are turning back around and claiming that we need to return to the heavenly-anointed values of, the same way they did in '94. That Reagan, the one with the minions who just purely coincidentally of course happen to be back pushing buttons in the White House yet again now. That Reagan, the one who was charismatic and was clueless on the face of it but behind the scenes was as dishonest and manipulative as any Republican president who ever lived. Gee, who'd'a thunk it?

Meanwhile, though, the tall guy who can't tell a joke but knows more about the way things work in the real world than a dozen GWB's even knows how to quote Churchill, too:

President Bush and all of us who grew up in the shadows of World War II remember Winston Churchill -- his grit, his daring, his resolve. I remember listening to his speeches on a vinyl album in the pre-iPod era. Two years ago I spoke about Iraq at Westminster College in Fulton, Mo., where Churchill had drawn a line between freedom and fear in his "iron curtain" speech. In preparation, I reread some of the many words from various addresses that made him famous. Something in one passage caught my eye. When Churchill urged, "Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never -- in nothing, great or small, large or petty, never give in," he added: "except to convictions of honour and good sense."

This is a time for such convictions.


I don't know if Kerry is going to run again or not. Sometimes I think that for his own sake maybe it might better if he didn't. I mean, politics is an ugly ugly business and if he decides to go for it he'd be walking straight back into the fire again. But I'll tell you what, I'm for damn sure glad he's there in the Senate doing the people's business and saying what needs to be said right now.

Better listen up, Boy Georgie. It's time to wake up and smell the coffins here. You don't have a mandate, you never did, and this whole business about you being "the decider" is a pathetic ego-trip riff that you're playing on the dead bodies of people who never deserved the kind of crap that you've been foisting on the world since the day you walked off the ranch in Crawford.

(And hey, one more thing, Georgie boy -- you know that last part about "this is a time for such convictions"? Maybe you should double-check with your buddy Gonzales, don't be surprised if there aren't still a bunch of loopholes left that you can still be prosecuted through. I'm just sayin', ya know?)




{edited after the fact to fix silly tpyos and blockquote tag error, ahem}
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:05 PM
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1. "this is a time a time for such convictions"
Heh heh, I think Kerry was referring to the other kind of convictions. But I like that kind you are talking about, too.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:48 AM
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19. wishful thinking on my part, too.
if only it were so, christmas would take on a whole new meaning.
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:16 PM
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2. Kerry continues to show he gets it.....
Whether or not you believe he should run in 2008, the truth still remains. Senator Kerry is one of the best leaders our nation has in political office.

Two quotes from this stand out in my mind:

"Refusing to change course for fear of the political fallout is not only dangerous -- it is immoral."

Nothing could speak more truth, and hit the nail on the head. Needless to say, it's damning that the Bush Administration continues to ignore and place a deaf ear to critics like Senator Kerry. Critics who couldn't be more right, and would be tons better in higher leadership roles then 'W' would.

"Conversation is not capitulation. Until recently, it was widely accepted that good foreign policy demands a willingness to seize opportunities and change policy as the facts change. That's neither flip-flopping nor rudderless diplomacy -- it's strength."

Amen President Kerry :patriot:
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:21 PM
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8. "Amen, President Kerry"...
...Amen. :patriot:
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:18 PM
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3. That's my president...
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:40 PM
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5. Don't we all wish!
How different this world would be if we had a President Gore or President Kerry! I :cry: for what could of/should of been. What a loss for all humanity! If only..............
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:26 PM
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9. I do agree.
Sen. Kerry referred to this recently when he said how much he regretted that Al Gore had not been inaugurated, though he had been elected in 2000.

Sigh! These two men would have been sane about Iraq and the aftermath of 9/11. I mean of all the attributes you could extol on either one, I would prize that one right now above all others.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 03:54 PM
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22. Let's not give up hope. Let's push hard to put JK front of Prez race in '08...
Edited on Sun Dec-24-06 03:54 PM by zann725
no matter who MSM keeps trying to push as the ONLY "hopefuls."

Let's keep the JK "Prez drumbeat" "keepin' on." Keep reminding others how much JK STILL has to offer...as clearly THIS article shows.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 05:16 PM
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24. sounds good to me
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 08:22 PM
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4. Bravo Senator Kerry!
K & R! :kick:
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:13 PM
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6. It is up to the Democratic Congress to stop Bush from this madness
if they fail, we will have a Stalingrad on the Tigris.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 09:35 PM
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7. Senator Kerry's words are inspiring and your observations are on target.
I will say though, that even though it will be tough going for Kerry to run again, I think he has too- our country needs a great leader.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:02 AM
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31. ..."When the goin' gets tough, the Tough get going." And JK 'shines' under pressure.
Exactly the "steady-hand" a world Leader should have. If only others could see...what MSM doesn't "tell" them.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-23-06 10:28 PM
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10. That is a great piece and it proves that Kerry is really on the ball about these things
He's taking Bush to task and taking on the "flip flopper" smear simultaneously. And people say he's a bad politician...
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 12:07 AM
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11. This is a great piece; it should have been a speech in '04
I was constantly wishing in '04 that Kerry would directly address the "flip-flop" charge, especially at either the debates or the convention. Something very much along the lines of what he wrote here. Or something like "when the facts change, I change my mind. That's not a flip-flop - it's common sense."

Such a line could easily have devastated the Bush campaign. Often the most effective way to defang a slur is to embrace it and twist it around. If the Kerry campaign turned the line "flip-flop" into an object of derision or even pseudo-pride, it would have really taken a lot of wind out of the Bush campaign.
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-25-06 11:49 AM
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30. I am not the swiftest of the bunch but even I understood what Kerry said about that.
IMO the only ones that did not , did not do so purposely
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 04:39 AM
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12. Kick
NO ONE in the Democratic party is speaking more clearly about Iraq than John Kerry. No one.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 08:24 AM
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13. I'll Always Support Senator Kerry...
He and Edwards won in my opinion, as did Gore.
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 08:59 AM
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14. Senator Kerry needs to become the U. S. Senate Majority Leader. Too much expertise to disregard.
He is brilliant, articulate, compassionate, judicious, scandal-free and nobody's political whore.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:00 AM
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15. He starts off badly on a tangent, playing into the harms of 2004 w/ a "Flip Flop" reference
Yes, Senator, I know you are pissed about how the campaign went and that you never got beyond the flip-flop problem. But I think that is a terrible way to start an op ed. These first two sentences are vague references to the harms of the 2004 campaign. To the average, uninformed reader, they would not know what to make of it.

There's something much worse than being accused of "flip-flopping": refusing to flip when it's obvious that your course of action is a flop.

I say this to President Bush as someone who learned the hard way how embracing the world's complexity can be twisted into a crude political shorthand.

That second sentence is so vague it makes me want to scream. And I don't mean an Iowa Yeeeaaargh. (Note that I gave Kerry $hundreds, organized the local Meetup group, and canvassed in a cold November rain for him)
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:20 AM
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16. Vague?
You think flip-flopping is a hard concept to understand? I think a person who arrived in this country today, whatever his/her native language, would understand (in translation) what flip-flopping means. The context of the 2004 election is not needed! For me, the meaning is crystal clear: policy not working, time to change course!

Do you disagree?

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:26 AM
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17. So what is the thesis of the op ed? Proving not to be a flip flopper? Getting out of Iraq?
Edited on Sun Dec-24-06 10:26 AM by TheBorealAvenger
:bluebox: Trying to set the record straight on campaign messages from September of 2004?
:bluebox: Calling Bush a flop?

If the paper would let me run an op ed, I am sure I could make better use of the column space. I would not have to spend time revisiting the "harms of Fortunato" while the clock ticks away.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 10:36 AM
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18. Yet,
of all the people who could have written this piece, it was authored by Senator Kerry.

There are many making the case for staying the course and others opting to stay a little longer.

Senator Kerry does a great service continuing to speak out against Bush's failed policy and illegal war, and trying to bring the troops home!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 05:09 PM
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23. Neither - the point is that changing course when it is the right thing
Edited on Sun Dec-24-06 05:12 PM by karynnj
to do is a good idea. As in Iraq.

Frnakly, if your favorite wrote this you would be walking on air as to his eloquence, brilliance, and knowledge of history. As to you being able to write better - you flatter yourself a bit too much. This is an outstanding op-ed - as can be seen by the reaction of most people.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 06:53 PM
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25. A few dozen bored DUers on Xmas Eve is hardly a convincing sample
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 07:04 PM
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26. That's insulting and inaccurate because it's not only a
few

Washington Post Added to homepage Sat 23rd Dec 2006, 07:07 PM
The Case for Flip-Flopping
When Resolve Turns Reckless

By John F. Kerry
Sunday, December 24, 2006; Page B01


And not only on DU, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/12/23/133233/73">here too.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 07:11 PM
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27. The other echo chamber
There must be a hundred bored Kossacks on that thread.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 07:25 PM
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28. Are you bored? n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-25-06 11:08 AM
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29. As compared to one bored DUer who clearly has
too high an opinion of his own writing ability. You are, of course allowed to thing that you write well and John Kerry doesn't. It does not, however, make it true.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 02:21 AM
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32. JK's "thesis?" Speaking Truth to Authority, with urgency of someone recently outside the Green Zone
...needing to accurately clarify the realities of (this) War to the masses (via an op-ed)...no matter how many words the WHOLE Truth takes.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 11:25 AM
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20. This OP-Ed gets to the point-->the tragic point.
"Refusing to change course for fear of the political fallout is not only dangerous -- it is immoral."

However, this is what is happening. One time Bush told the truth about Iraq he said that "it would be for other presidents" to end the conflict. So, in the meantime we will be pouring billions of dollars into the business of killing and plunder. War profiteers will keep making a lot of money--and far be it from Bush to turn of the spigot. Of all the abstract cases for impeachment this is the most serious and urgent.

Damn. I am so glad Kerry has stuck to his principles and kept up the realistic and truthful fight. I was listening to a right-wing talk show the other day and they were debating what should be done in Iraq. It was heartening that the host was pushing an approach like the Kerry-Feingold strategy (without the senators' names).
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-24-06 02:40 PM
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21. Home run, Senator!
Great piece, on the mark regarding Iraq as always.

I say run again. He may be "walking into the line of fire" again, but he's survived far worse in his lifetime.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 08:45 AM
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33. Certainly struck a nerve as it has 11 pages of comments -
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-26-06 10:53 AM
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34. Amazing how stupid the RW comments are
There are very few that even attempt to explain Iraq or deal with the issues. It is also amazing what they think is funny.
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