Bless me, father, for I have sinnned. I like Laura Bush.

[closeupready]

(Even though I voted straight democratic ticket last november, except for Hevesi. :D )

Ppeople here criticize her. I dont know how much of that is guilt-by-association and how much is sincere dislike, but being superficial here, she's pretty, but more importantly she works to promote the interests of women and children.

Does anyone have substantive issues with her? If so, what are they

[maxsolomon]

1. she enables a war criminal every single day

beyond that, she's peachy.

[renie408]

19. Right. She should smother him in his sleep. n/t

[maxsolomon]

20. i do not advocate violence against the POTUS

i do advocate her exercising her conscience, should she retain any at this late date.

[renie408]

24. The thing is, there is the possibility that she actually believes in him.

I think he has convinced himself of the things he says. It's how he says them with such conviction. Maybe she thinks he is right. I don't, but she might. I mean, there are people who still believe him. And they have a lot less mentally and emotionally invested in thinking he is right than Laura Bush does.

[shain from kane]

2. Vehicular manslaughter, never convicted. Drug-dealing, never convicted.

Supposedly marijuana possession and drug-dealing in college. Do you realize what a sentence in the state of Texas would have been if she had been charged, and convicted?

[babylonsister]

3. Check out this link, view the video of what she had to say about

Michael J. Fox, and get back to me.

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/31/laura-bush-michael-j-fox/

[closeupready]

4. Whoa. What does she mean by "manipulate people's feelings"???

Give me a break. :mad: Thanks for the reality check. Disappointing.

[nytemare]

22. It was also easy to manipulate feelings after 9/11

The 2004 election was proof of that. The percentage of people mainly concerned about terrorism was pretty high before the election. The public was fed a diet of pure "terra" for three years.

So, I guess she speaks from experience, or at least, experience by proxy.

[lumberjack_jeff]

65. Barbara Bush considered her good enough for her boy. 'Nuff said. n/t

[Greatwildbeast]

66. I've always thought she's simply just a mean spirited bitch.

One who tries to keep her ill thoughts well hidden. Could well be that she is the same "Lady MacBeth" type that Nancy Reagan is.

My daughter says she bears a strong resemblance to a brown haired version of Martha Stewart.

But again: She's simply just a small minded bitch. Laura that is. My daughter is a nice Jewish girl.

[Missy M]

5. What specifically has she done in the interest of women and

children? Promoting (just words) and actually doing something are two different things.

[Agnomen]

6. That's not a sin

Just too much eggnog over the holidays.
Relax, you sober up, she'll lose her appeal.

[Kurovski]

7. Although I've been disappointed in her over the past three years,

I too have sinned.

I enjoy a good--or even a cheap joke at her expense--but she never wanted to be where she is.

Perhaps one day she'll give an adult's accounting of her time in Washington. Perhaps she'll be honest about it. Given what has occurred and what her level of responsibility for it is, It won't much matter in the scheme of things.

I think she is extremely conflicted and in the recent past has weighed the leger on the side of her family and her allegiance to her...husband. A reaction from her as a wife taking things personally. I'm not 100% certain of her approval on other counts.

I see her as having a good sense of humor, and that has been something of a clue to her personality for me, but she has also made some very odd public choices. her reactions at Rosa Parks funeral was very un-first lady-like. Again, perhaps a defense of her husband as...a husband.

Like her husband, it would appear that medication has played a role in her attempts to handle her position. Like her husband, she is unfortunately not up to the job.

But on a personal level, I "like" her, for whatever that's worth. she is the least contemptible part of a difficult and reprehensible equation.

[hlthe2b]

8. What, pray tell, has she EVER done to promote women?

The women of Afghanistan have never been worse off, nor now, those of Iraq?

If this is a sincere post, then my dear closeupready, please inform yourself.

[acmavm]

12. You're right to bring up Afganistan. She made all those remarks

about how she was going to champion the education and rights of the Afgani female right after the invasion and the friggin' MINUTE we went into Iraq she dropped that big talking crap. Ever hear Ms. Seven-axe-handles-across-the-beam talk about the slaughter of anyone who tries to educate a female in Afganistan? Ever hear the Librarian talk about the worsening of the plight of women in Afganistan now that the Taliban are making their big come-back? Ever hear her say anything about how the warlords, who were to be the administration's 'allies' in this fight, have turned on her hubby and are now going for everything they can get for themselves and screw the US/NATO efforts to extend Karzais government beyond the six square blocks that it controls?

If the woman has any intellect at all, and I've found that to be increasingly doubtful over the past six years, she wouldn't be able to deny to herself or the world that her idiot asswipe husband has been the front man for the worst group of war criminals since the crew that came out of Nazi Germany. And she wouldn't be able, as the sincere Christian woman she makes herself out to be, to defend him/them or try to make it seem like all the death and destruction that they've brought to the world was some great humanitarian effort to 'let freedom reign' in the Middle East. She is defending them and simply by that action she has shown that she is as morally bankrupt and corrupt as they are.

[shain from kane]

9. Pickles leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Not so sweet.

[grasswire]

10. she takes advantage of her free ride...

...in the People's House with all its grandeur and comfort, whilc knowing that she is only there because her husband's people attacked the Constitution of the United States by lying, manipulation, the twisting of the formerly immutable Rule of Law, thuggery, cronyism and corruption, the quashing of lawful votes and the tainting of the Supreme Court.

She knows all of this and still enjoys her power to lavishly entertain her friends and cronies in our beautiful house, with our money. That's an insult.

[closeupready]

17. Actually, that's a good point.

In that video, she was quick to blurt that "manipulating" phrase - even squeezed it in twice in case we missed it the first time, I guess - as a means of attacking M.J. Fox's integrity, implying that his cynical "manipulation" was plain to all observers, when this administration has done probably more PR manipulation than any previous one.

[SpiralHawk]

11. You mean Dime Bag Laura?

My issues with her begin with her Occult Past.

Come clean, Laura, it would be good for your soul.

Like so many republicons, she is a hypocrite.

[Marrah_G]

15. Occult past?

Can you explain that one a bit more?

[SpiralHawk]

16. occult = hidden

Occult is the perfect word for describing connecticut preppy cheerleader AWOL coke-sniffer George Bush, and his marital crony, Laura Manslaughter Pothead Scorpio Bush.

They both have MASSIVELY OCCULTED pasts.

420 420 420 420 & 322 322 322 322

[acmejack]

23. Just like the little slides to test your stool for "hidden" or "Occult" blood

[fudge stripe cookays]

13. If you're serious,

then you're an idiot.

For Christ's sake, do some reading. The woman is just as selfish and stupid as the rest of her puke-inducing family. In addition to being a vehicular manslaughter murderer.

:eyes:

[Rosalind]

25. "vehicular manslaughter murderer"

That's an oxymoron.

In any event, this entire thread makes you all sound as cuckoo as those over at Freeperland. (Laura Bush a drug-dealer. Laura Bush a murderer. Okay...thanks for the enlightenment.). I've been on both sites and you have more similarities than differences w/the nutjobs over there than you'd like to admit.

[fudge stripe cookays]

26. She killed a guy while she was drunk...

driving a car. What would you call it? The names conflict. Big fucking deal.

I don't give a crap what you think of us. If you enjoy it so much over there, feel free to return.

[mtnsnake]

29. an ex-boyfriend, no less

http://postmodern-research.blogspot.com/2006/08/laura-bush-in-high-school-killed-her-ex.html

[SpiralHawk]

36. Check the facts, rosa

The truth is out there. And its ugly.

[calimary]

47. Oxymoron? Were we talking about limbaugh here, too?

BTW - Welcome to DU!!!

:D

[TankLV]

53. Too bad if you don't like it. It's the TRUTH.

Now go back to that site you seem to have a first hand knowledge of.

I know I'll feel better when you're gone...

[Bridget Burke]

60. No, but it may be hyperbole....

She probably really did kill her ex-boyfriend by accident. But her parents told her that everything would be taken care of. "No, don't try to talk about it--here, just take these pills."

Allegations that she sold a bit of pot in college might well be true, but I don't look down on her for that. (If I ignore the hypocrisy.)

Laura probably is smarter than her husband. But she made the devil's deal by marrying him after teaching & librarianship didn't pan out. She quit work the minute she married & didn't have the girls for a couple of years.

She's a bit pathetic, actually. But she does have a mean streak.

Please--if you're not comfortable here, feel free to leave.

[salin]

14. She let herself be "used" per 'taking the cause of the women of Afghanistan

The cause was worthy - but hers was fluff. Never mentioned again. As if things were great now for women. No schools were being bombed and teachers being threatened with death - and killed - for teaching girls. All women (if you were to believe her real concern and cause - and subsequent silence) no longer have to wear burkas.

She *could* have gone after this issue ala Princess Diana and landmines (her tireless pursuit of removing and banning the use of landmines). She *could* have made this a big deal - and through a figurehead status keep the issue in the headlines, around the world. Instead she demonstrates that it was just publicity stunt for hubby (as many of us suspected). I think using the extreme misfortune of others as a publicity stunt for self or spouse - is more than exceptionally distasteful - indeed broaching on ugly opportunism.

[sarge43]

18. Yeah, she's talk, no walk

She'll show up at some library, run her mouth about how important reading is (no argument), then truck over to a thousand dollar a plate fund raiser for a Repug - all on our dime.

Lady Bird Johnson worked like a galley slave to make her issues - conservation - a reality and she made them happen. Jacqueline Kennedy turned the public White House into a show place. Eleanor Roosevelt moved mountains. Just what has Laura Bush done besides flap her gums?

[benddem]

21. she didn't do a great job

with those girls! Look at the difference between those two and Chelsea and Jimmy Carter's children.

[mtnsnake]

27. Laura is as repulsive a First Lady as has ever been in the WH

You don't have to even be a good judge of people to watch her for only a short time to know that she's as insincere as she is dumb. First ladies like her are as embarrassing as first class assholes like her husband.

[Mad_Dem_X]

57. Stepford Wife

She's an enabler and, as you said, insincere. She seems very, very fake. We need a First Lady with a strong personality, someone who has an identity other than Mr. So-and-so's Wife. And one who stands up and fights for what she believes in and for what is right.

[PresidentObama]

28. She's no Teresa Heinz Kerry, thats for sure.

Otherwise I have nothing against her, minus marrying W.

[closeupready]

30. Teresa "Mom" Heinz Kerry rocks!

Nobody can compete with her. :) 'Cept maybe Eleanor Roosevelt.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

31. I uh... like the Bush daughters

But I'm 23, and I've not yet begun to fully debase myself.

[shain from kane]

32. They have. That is, debased themselves.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

34. But I haven't even met them yet!

[shain from kane]

35. You know their father was born on third base and thought he'd hit a triple.

So the debasement was in their jeans.

[MrSlayer]

33. I'm completely indifferent to her.

I don't care who the first lady is, what she says, what she does, what she's wearing or any of that. She is irrelevant.

[laureloak]

37. Who needs another arm ornament for 1st lady? Give me

a strong and intelligent woman like Hillary over the likes of Laura any day.

[ShortnFiery]

38. Laura Bush is one dimensional - presenting an image of the stereotypic 50s wife. eom

[Trajan]

39. She is a fucking REPUBLICAN, with Republican 'values' ....

What more need be said ? ....

Like her all you want : She should be home baking cookies. Instead, she is enabling the destructive rampage of her cowardly husband ....

And: It is 'Forgive me father, for I have sinned' ... NOT 'Bless me father, for I have sinned' ...

It's been a VERY long time since I have knelt in a confessional, but I'm pretty damned sure the Father is NOT going to "bless you" for your sins ....

[closeupready]

43. "Bless me, Father," is how I learned it, but I'm an idiot, I understand

from someone above so dont waste anymore time correcting me. :evilgrin:

[TankLV]

54. It needs to be repeated - you obviously haven't learned a thing...

Nice of you to just join up to spew repuke talking points...

[laylah]

56. I, too, learned it as

"Bless me Father for I have sinned." Other than that, Laura is an empty-headed nitwit who cares absolutely nothing about anything or anyone other than herself and that idiot she is married to.

Jenn

[unkachuck]

40. she's a zombie....

....she's one of 'them'....now say three Our Fathers and four Hail Marys, go, and sin no more....

[Trajan]

41. Laura's Budget Speech - by Betty Bowers ....

(Tongue In Cheek, as only Betty can ...)

Remarks by Mrs. Laura Bush During February 6, 2002 Address to Wives at Fort Bragg, North Carolina

As delivered.

Good morning, my fellow Americans, wives and targets of those deep-fried-dog munching North Koreans.

As you know, my husband is currently marketing his wonderful, new budget to the American people. This, of course, requires countless photographs of both of us surrounded by you people in time for the evening news. So, here I am.

(APPLAUSE)

Standing here, I am struck by how useful you people are. You see, we Republicans couldn't have asked for a better marketing opportunity to push through breathtaking tax bonanzas for our constituents than the possible deaths of your dear husbands!

(APPLAUSE)

I just want to say, "Thank you for being there for us."

(APPLAUSE)

Bushie has really enjoyed having his photo taken wearing camouflage recently at military bases like this one. It would be nostalgic for him if he actually remembered the 1960's. But, I tell you, I used to have a scrapbook with pictures of my handsome husband taken when he fought fearlessly for an undetermined amount of time in the Viet Nam conflict in Alabama. They were the cutest pictures of Bushie in his jet way up in the sky. In fact, I had many pictures of my husband from that era flying high as a kite.

~more~

[Trajan]

42. Betty Bowers interviews Laura Bush

Laura Bush, America's First Lady enjoys a lovely, candid interview with her spiritual advisor, Mrs Betty Bowers, America's Best Christian


Betty: It's lovely to be back in the White House, Laura --

Laura: Oh, Betty, for goodness sake, call me what Bushie calls me -- Pickles!

Betty: But it was my understanding that the alarmingly indiscrete help in this building called you Pickled, dear.

Laura: Well, not to my face and, I hope, only after my third breakfast margarita.

Betty: So, what do you think about that blabbermouth traitor Paul O'Neill's saying that 9-11™ was simply used as a convenient ruse to go ahead with plans already in place to invade that dreaful Iraq place?

Laura: Well, I just hope he makes sure he is right with the Lord every morning before he slides his Mercedes key into the ignition switch! (LAUGHS) No, less seriously, it's like Bushie said, "If we had been planning the invasion of Iraq for years and years, do you think our whole occupation plan would look like it was conceived on the back of an envelope during a game of cards on the 10-hour flight over there?"

Betty: I think going with Socratic obfuscation is a wonderfully wise choice while the naïve press still flounders under the delightful misapprehension that there actually was an occupation plan.

Laura: Exactly.

Betty: Now, what about O'Neill saying the President was disengaged at Cabinet meetings?

Laura: Bushie was furious with that unflattering, off-message observation. He is almost certain that he was super-engaged at those meetings, Betty. But since he doesn't actually remember being at any of them, it is hardly fair for the liberal press to pester him for examples. What really got my goat was O'Neill saying Bushie was like a blind man!

~more~

[Infinite Hope]

44. I used to like her, but I'm more indifferent now.

I didn't like her campaigning in 2006. It didn't fit with what she stands for. She let herself be used.

[greenbriar]

45. bullshit...she could give a SHIT about women or children

she does not care about anything but her own life

she killed her boyfriend

she is a plastic bitch

[JI7]

46. i'm disgusted by her and hate her just like the rest of them

some years back i might have agreed. but she contributes to the destruction of the world and people's lives. it would be one thing if she just stayed in the background and not said anything (not that it would be anything to admire).

but she actively gets out and spreads the BS about things. about the war. attacking Michael J Fox for his support of stem cell research.

her works to promote the intersts of women and children ? hahha, it's all bs. just short term pr . no substance there.

[chieftain]

48. For your penance make 9 novenas and a perfect Act of

Contrition and vow to never, ever commit this sin again.

[Javaman]

49. Think Ava Braun the enabler. nt

[Joey Liberal]

50. She's a modern day Eva Braun (Hitler's Girlfriend) n/t

[beth9999]

51. Hello!!!! She's a MURDERESS!!

She killed a kid when she was a teenager by running him down with her car! How can you like her?

[TankLV]

52. Not me. She's a total BITCH.

No redeamning social value at all.

The world is WORSE off for her having been born.

Classless, heartless, bitch...

Oh, and I almost forgot - a DRUNK and a MURDERER - just like the rest of her fucking family!

[Disturbed]

55. Laura Bush is a self centered phony.

She has this fake persona for the public that the Corp Media buys into and promotes. She is, in reality, a mean spirited, selfish, arrogant, ignorant person just like her husband. She has promoted RWing causes such as Anti-Stem Cell Funding and has campaigned for RW Candidates. Claiming that she is a Private Citizen is as bogus as her phony public persona. She champions causes such as Women's Rights in Afghanistan and schools for Iraqis and Afghans but it is merely lip service. She has never actually done anything about any of her causes.Laura Bush is a vapid, phony person and should be shunned yet she remains popular with the ignorant people of America because the Corp Media goes along with her charade.

[Mad_Dem_X]

58. "no redeeming social value" - Exactly!

She's an empty vessel.

[THUNDER HANDS]

59. i like that she was a librarian

my grilfriend is a librarian.

[Bridget Burke]

61. Laura was only a librarian for a few years....

She got her BS in education in 1968, then taught until 1972. In 1973, she got her Masters in Library Science & worked in libraries until 1977--when she married & quit.

The girls were born in 1981. Apparently, Laura did some volunteer work--but she never held another job.

[question everything]

62. How she pales compared to Betty Ford

as we are all reminded now. She was pro-choice - in public, not like Barbra Bush who was trying to conceal this point. She worked for the ERA. Someone interviewed her and asked whether Ford has ever tried to tell her to "cool it" and she laughed and said that he would never have done such a thing.

[closeupready]

64. I agree. Betty Ford is someone I truly admire.

Far more than our current First Lady.

[catgirl]

63. Her comments about the media

She actually accused the media of distorting the Iraq war
complaining that "they don't cover any of the good things"
happening there. She went on and on about how biased the
media is here. Wow. I had to change the channel as I was
feeling rather nauseated. I don't recall who was interviewing
her. I was just flicking channels. She is the classic republican
who will defend all their ills no matter what. I love how they
switch they truth around.

[kskiska]

67. "I read, I smoke, I admire."

That's how she described herself to her prospective mother-in-law. Her daughters describe her as a clean freak, constantly cleaning cabinets and closets, and getting upset when someone walks over the vacuum marks in the rugs. She still smokes. Her remarks on Michael J. Fox clinch the deal.