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Bob Geiger (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:04 PM Original message |
Why John Edwards Changes Everything |
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THUNDER HANDS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. he says a lot of nice things, but.... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Honestly, I think Sen. Kerry has more dedicated support and has |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
41. Kerry is history. Edwards is the future. n/t |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
73. I disagree. Edward's offers nothing new. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 02:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
91. If you cared about anti-corruption and open government you'd see Kerry as very relevant |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Edwards is saying what will be relevant in 2008. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
42. What a crock. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. is 'crock' the word you were looking for? or something more likely to |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:49 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. I think that there will be no one issue |
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MontanaMaven (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
68. Well said and scary. We need to start now. Hold Congress accountable. |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 08:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
96. Wow! |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 11:36 AM Response to Reply #96 |
100. . |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. I agree, and that is my major issue with him or anyone who supported the IWR |
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MeanBone (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 02:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
64. Actually, it was more than a year ago... |
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MontanaMaven (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:37 AM Response to Reply #64 |
70. He connects the economy and working people to everything |
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fuzzyball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
102. Edwards waited too damn long to recapitulate his support of IWR |
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keta11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
3. I do not know what exactly qualifies him to be taken |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
14. there is so much wrong with your post |
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keta11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. Impressive in the debate? Are you kidding me?> |
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DemDogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 05:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. According to CBS and MSNBC polls debate night |
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keta11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 06:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Online poll, no? |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. Hey, I was squarely for Kerry and Edwards, but I was seriously |
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keta11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Which famous "hawk" said this?? |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 04:47 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. please explain the gleeful laugh |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:20 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. Good GOD. I am SICK of hearing that being an |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. calling JE an ambulance chaser indicates you don't know a thing about him |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 07:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
95. Besides, Edwards has grown so |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. The time is ripe for an "outsider" |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yep. I live in SC and that is my experience here, also. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
57. NJ is as midatlantic as you can get |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. A lot of realignment and retooling going on here. |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. he would excite you if you didn't just assume the worst about everything |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. He's saying the same things he said |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 03:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. Do you care about poverty in America? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 09:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. LOL! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Interesting points |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. If it stays just Vilsack, Kucinich, and him, he has a chance. |
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LEW (809 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
9. I agree with Bob Geiger |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. Edwards has become a strong candidate. and he is a good 'learner'. |
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Pithy Cherub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
11. Edwards judgment and leadership skills are impaired |
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venable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. in my opinion he has amazing leadership skills, excellent judgement |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:22 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Deleted sub-thread |
DemDogs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 05:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Edwards wins any comparison with your guy |
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BlueManDude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's gonna be another election about national security... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 02:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Actually, it will be a referendum on George Bush |
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DaveinMD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 03:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. the economy |
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Conscious Confucius (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
24. Edwards's speaking skills do not inspire me |
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MontanaMaven (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
71. He's not an orator, but he has eloquence aka simplicity in explaining the complex |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
25. "Edwards was undeniably a more engaging personality than John Kerry" |
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Conscious Confucius (127 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 05:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Edwards doesn't give off the vibe of a singular leader |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. Welcome to DU! |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Sure he does. He was better than both Kerry and Gore. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Could you explain your opinion a bit more... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:02 AM Response to Reply #55 |
76. I don't recall him winning the support of a majority of Americans like Kerry and Gore. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:57 AM Response to Reply #30 |
75. Good point! And welcome! n/t |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 01:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
88. I am not interested in... |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 06:56 PM Response to Reply #88 |
94. Actually it wouldn't be throwing your vote away - |
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bpeale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I don't care |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
74. Corney, that is the word I have been looking for -re-Edwards. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
29. We should all thank Edwards for trying to bring NOLA back into the spot light. |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 07:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Major props to Dr. Fate for thinking Edwards is terrific even if not his choice for primary... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
34. I disagree Bob - Edwards was fairly lethargic as a campaigner and as VP candidate |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
78. I had forgotten about that, but you are right. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 11:12 AM Response to Reply #78 |
84. In fairness, Elizabeth was already sick, but just not diagnosed yet. Cancer takes its toll |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
35. my husband (who has been 100% predicting the presidency in our 14 years |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 07:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. You, and other DUers, are smart to stay on the fence :) |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 08:00 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Kennedy |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Gore's a good guy |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
56. Once again Edwards is the only Man with a Plan. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. What are Kerry's 4 Faneuil Hall Speeches? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:12 AM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Oh please. Where have you been? Sen. Kerry has been out with plans |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
103. I'm talking about the 04 primaries. Only Edwards had a plan. n /t |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 02:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
63. My God, you voted for Bush????? nt |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:27 AM Response to Reply #63 |
83. Yep, and Edwards brought me back ! |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
82. Just curious |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I'm not excited, but we COULD do worse, I'm sure. |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:44 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. that's kinda my feeling n/t |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. A friend of mine stood next to an old guy at an Edwards rally in '04 |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:09 AM Response to Reply #35 |
79. Edwards is no JFK. I agree he has a shot, but so do others. n/t |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
36. Bob, I agree |
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dk2 (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. John Edwards is my candidate! |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. k and r |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-28-06 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
54. The comments on 2004 are completely speculative |
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Leilani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 08:35 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. I believe Clark finished ahead of Edwards in New Hampshire |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:03 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. They both had counts that rounded to 12% |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
60. You had me till you cited incorrect numbers |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
61. 2008 is about Corporatist vs. Populist. Edwards has thrown down the gauntlet |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
62. Edwards is on top...until Obama announces next week. nt |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
65. I like to picture him naked. He's so cute. A little cherubim. |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 07:29 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Yeah it's all about personality |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
90. Too true. Bush was touted as a handsome man in his campaigns |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. patriotic about something beyond war |
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Chewbacca (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
72. Sorry if this is a bit off topic; |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. Hey |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
80. Enough of the Edwards lost to Cheney criticism... |
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vkobaya (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
85. "Ambulance Chaser" |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 12:42 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. Nice post. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 01:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Lakoff suggests we use "Public Protection Attorneys" to describe... |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 04:45 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. makes sense to me! tks! |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. True. |
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teryang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 02:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
105. Well said, access to the courts is a Constitutional right and... |
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ChiciB1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-29-06 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
93. GREAT POST! Hit the Nail On The Head! |
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earthlover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
99. he's superman!!! |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
101. I am on the fence |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-30-06 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
104. Would you prefer Gephardt over Edwards?? - OR Daushel over Obama?? |
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talk hard (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
106. didn't float in 2004 |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-31-06 02:17 AM Response to Original message |
107. He is the man..I respect with teeth..... |
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