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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:32 PM
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I guess it's best that our Democrats aren't speaking out about Saddam's death.
I guess it's better to let the world think we don't disagree with executing him with such pomp and circumstance on our TV networks.

I figure anything any Democrat said right now would be misconstrued. So I guess silence is better than being misunderatood.

The problem is the world assumes it was done in all our names, that's the problem. I heard from a friend in Europe by email, his anger is showing again. He attributes what our government does to we the people of America. We once talked through it, even with the language barrier, but now it's bad again.

He asked me if the party I belonged to approved of the boastful..I think that is the word..way we executed Saddam.

I told him I found it shameful, but that I could not answer for our politicians.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/866
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:38 PM
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1. Senator Biden
commented. I saw it on the crawl at CNN.
Something about Iraqs blackest days in history. Sorry, I'm not looking for a link.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:41 PM
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3. I haven't had the TV on much, except for movies.
So I might have missed something. I just read the forums for news, and I have not seen much at all. I can't bear to watch them beating the drums for the execution just like they did for war with Iraq.

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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:51 PM
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17. Good for him. eom
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:39 PM
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2. qui tacet consentire videtur
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 12:40 PM by leftchick
my sig line in Latin

:(
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:43 PM
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4. Your sig line is correct...
but silence is safer politically.

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enough already Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:11 PM
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16. Yeah, we wouldn't want anyone speaking out against Bush and his barbarism
This is a sad, sad day for the world and this country in particular.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:45 PM
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5. Have Republicans been commenting on it yet either?
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 12:45 PM by mtnsnake
Other than Bush?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:47 PM
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6. I guess it's best they don't either, politically speaking.
Edited on Sat Dec-30-06 12:48 PM by madfloridian
Probably best all the way around not to speak of it.

But since I am not a Republican, I don't worry as much about their statements.

My friend asked me what MY party thought.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:49 PM
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7. It'll be interesting to see if anyone breaks the ice with an ungeneric comment
that starts some fireworks off.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 12:53 PM
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8. "The problem is the world assumes it was done in all our names"
What I really regret was the speed with which the execution occured. We could have organized a petition drive, silent demonstrations around the globe to make our feelings known.

Maybe, that was one of the objectives of the rush to execute. To silence everyone.....
As I understand it, Saddam has more charges to be tried on.

I still believe, The Hague would have been the only court, which could have had legitimacy.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:50 PM
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9. Here:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:55 PM
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10. Thanks, super statements by Kucinich.
I missed that, thank for posting it.

"Who will be held accountable for the deaths of over 655,000 innocent Iraqi civilians during the course of this illegal war?

Where is the two trillion dollars that this war is going to cost coming from?

When will Congress be held accountable for having voted to go to war?

When will Congress be held accountable for continuing to fund a war, and for abandoning our troops to a conflict that cannot be won militarily?"
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 01:58 PM
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11. executing saddam is only the solution . . .

if saddam was the problem in the first place.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:01 PM
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18. And he was not the problem...
It was our own little neocons who wanted to control the middle east, to remap it to suit them.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:43 PM
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12. Dems are always in a lose lose position.
That is why they keep their mouths shut.
Can't win either way they go on repug issues.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:42 PM
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20. isn't that the truth!
it's a shame, really, that equal amounts of that criticism comes from people who are on their own side!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:49 PM
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13. They better be talking about stopping Bush's surge and bringing the troops home!
That should be priority number one for Demcrats: start the process of bringing this war to a speedy conclusion with minimal bloodshed.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 03:08 PM
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15. Some are doing that about Iraq...and leaving.
On Fox right after the election:

"The truth is the President still is in charge of military and foreign policy. We need to work with the President to get ourselves out of Iraq. The vast majority of the American people believe the truth, which is it was a mistake to get into Iraq in the first place. That the President does not believe. Everybody in America understands that we cannot stay -- except possibly the President and Vice President Cheney -- understands that we cannot stay in Iraq forever. We can't have a stay the course mentality. We need to get out of Iraq. The question is how we can do that. We hope to work with the President to bring our troops home. I think by establishing an arbitrary deadline of next June is not the way it's going to work. But this cannot be left to the next president, as George Bush once famously said."

"Our problem is we have to cut our losses and figure out how we're going to get our folks out and still defend the United States of America. Keeping 140,000 brave Americans in Iraq is not making America safer. It's very clear it has not made America safer and the American people just voted to say send some folks in there who are willing to be tough and smart about how we defend the country. We're not going to put up with terrorism in Iraq or any place else, but we can't keep 140,000 brave Americans in Iraq indefinitely. Did not we not learn this lesson in Vietnam?"

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/621

But I guess they really do have to be careful about Saddam, can't put my finger on it though.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 02:51 PM
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14. Rev. Jesse Jackson spoke out. Good for him.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=3006852&mesg_id=3006852

""Saddam's heinous crimes against humanity can never be diminished, but he was our ally while he was doing it," he said Friday. "Saddam as a war trophy only deepens the catastrophe to which we are indelibly linked."
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:35 PM
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19. We're barbarians.
NT!

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:52 PM
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21. Words my friend used to describe our country...
They were vantard, vantardise, and despote. I used babel fish...translated to boastful, boastfulness, and bully. The nicer ones he used.

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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-03-07 11:41 PM
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22. Still not a word about it.
I guess there is nothing really they can say.
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