Saddam's summary trial and execution was a grave injustice

[IndianaGreen]

Saddam's summary trial and execution was a grave injustice in that it was the final coverup and stonewalling of America's complicity in his crimes. As Robert Fisk wrote in a biting column:

Who encouraged Saddam to invade Iran in 1980, which was the greatest war crime he has committed for it led to the deaths of a million and a half souls? And who sold him the components for the chemical weapons with which he drenched Iran and the Kurds? We did. No wonder the Americans, who controlled Saddam's weird trial, forbad any mention of this, his most obscene atrocity, in the charges against him. Could he not have been handed over to the Iranians for sentencing for this massive war crime? Of course not. Because that would also expose our culpability.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article2112555.ece

Like the Germans of the Third Reich, Americans do not want to know the crimes that their leaders have committed, and the proxies they have used to commit them.

Jimmy Carter encouraged Saddam to invade Iraq. Ronald Reagan gave him the poison gas technology that he used on Iranians and the Kurds, and American and European arms merchants profited from arms and WMD sales to Saddam.

Saddam should have been tried by the International Crimes Court at The Hague, where he would have received a fair trial, and where the extend of his crimes and the role of his accomplices would have been known to the entire world.

[leftchick]

1. it doesn't play well on american tv.

:(

[dipsydoodle]

2. The Kurds had it coming anyway,

regardless of who did it, and I feel no remorse for them. It's called payback time. Since you mentioned Fisk root around and you'll find that they were the primary culprits, on behalf of the Turks in the genocide, aka ethnic cleansing, of up to a million Armenians. No - time isn't the great healer.

[Trajan]

3. Egads ....

So, the Sunni's obtain revenge against the Kurds on behalf of the Armenians ? ...

Who will avenge the Kurds against the Sunni's ? .... US ? ....

Who will avenge the Sunni's against US ? ....

I cannot see an end to revenge in your world ...

There is no light at the end of your tunnel .... only MORE and MORE vengeance .. MORE and MORE death ... stacked upon itself, growing exponentionally, forever ...

Not exactly a vision of optimism, nor an enlightened worldview ....

I will not buy into this ... killing is JUST as wrong AGAINST Kurds as it is AGAINST Armenians as it is AGAINST Sunni's as it is AGAINST Shiites as it is AGAINST everyone else ....

I hope this is not a progressive vision of the world ... because if it is, I need a new philosophy ....

[Unvanguard]

4. Yeah, because groups deserve to be collectively punished

for crimes committed sixty years before.

:eyes:

[dipsydoodle]

5. Like it or not

9/11 was a collective punishment. Is that recent enough for you ? Would that event have been more understable to you if it had been carried out by Chileans. After all the death toll was a fraction of those lost to death squads as a direct result of US intervention in Chile in 1973 - coincidently 9/11 that year.

[Trajan]

6. 9-11 was a crime unto itself ....

The Chilean death squads were crimes unto themselves ...

Honestly ... are you prepared to live in a world of infinite punishment ? ....

There is no linkage between acts that satisfies the justification for MORE killing ....

IF it was wrong to kill Chileans, then it was wrong to kill American in the WTC ..

IF you justify killing americans on 911, do you NOT also justify the death of Chileans as well ? ...

Why would it be different ?

[Unvanguard]

8. Yeah, and 9/11 was unjust.

What's your point?

And no, it would not have been any more justifiable had Chileans done it.

[INdemo]

7. An article like this is fuel for Republican propaganda because

those MSM idiots will take the statement "Saddam's trail and execution was a injustice"..thats it..thats' all that will be reported and the Repukes will run with this... Never mind what the entire article was about...
So I would ask any repuke
Saddams execution cost us 3000 lives and a trillion dollors..for what?

[IndianaGreen]

9. Aren't we tired of Republican propaganda?

We cannot tailor our responses to GOP policies and statements based on what the MSM will do. They are the voice of their parent corporations, all of which support Bush and oppose all Democrats. This timidity has gotten old of late!

It was the timid Democrats in Congress that voted for the war in Iraq for fear of having the MSM portray them as weak on national defense. Look at what that has gotten us!

[INdemo]

13. The Republicans have used propaganda and lies for over 50 years

to win elections because they have never been able to look the American people in the eye and tell the truth about the issues..Just take a look at history and the people that ran the campaigns and their strategy has always been if a lie is repeated often enough people will believe it..I dont expect the Republican party to ever change.But perhaps 2006 was the beginning for voters to realize all their BS is just that ..BS and they can now see beyond the smoke screen..

[cali]

14. I don't like propaganda period.

Not repub propaganda or democratic propagada. Some here who say they deplore propaganda are totally blind to it when it comes from their "side". Just saying.

[fuzzyball]

10. Every Iraqi they interviewed on Portland TV was jubilant

and brought to tears of joy watching Saddam meet his maker.
And they interviewed quite a few Iraqi's living in Oregon.
That is the image which will be seen by millions.

[IndianaGreen]

11. How come none of them are in Iraq to rebuild their country?

How come none of them enlisted in the military to liberate their country?

Those "tears of joy" are rather shallow!

[fuzzyball]

12. Good question,,,,but hey I am just relaying what was shown on TV

The reporter was only asking them what they thought
about Saddam execution.

But to venture a guess, all these Iraqi's living in the US
fled Iraq to get away from the Saddam regime. If Iraq ever
becomes stable and prosperous a lot of them would probably
return. ANd Iraq surely has the potential to be one of the
richest/capita countries in the world with their oil.

Similar emigration is already happening to Chinese
and Indians who are returning to their countries of origin
because of the new found prosperity in those countries. Both
those countries are getting away from socialistic dogma and
finding prosperity going capitalistic.

[zulchzulu]

15. Saddam will achieve martyrdom in Arab World

For that reason alone, he was successful with his fate. He always was thinking about his mythological legacy with the various monuments and buildings he had built.

Now, by not wearing the shroud and being assassinated by the Shiia (as per the comments made by the guards at his time of hanging), he is now a martyr.

The trial was a sham and now Saddam's martyrdom basically will blow back in future incubations of islamic fundamentalist jihad. The World is definitely more dangerous now than it was when Saddam was just laying around in his prison cell, which would have politically been the better way to defang him.