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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:09 AM
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Everyone Needs To Lighten Up About the Saddam Hussein Hanging
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 10:15 AM by TheWatcher
We really should stop bandying about this talk about barbarism and such.

Because as any sane person knows, the satisfaction of blood lust, especially American blood lust is the real issue at stake here, and that trumps every other issue as far as importance goes.

All this other stuff is just noise. Americans really need to stop focusing on all the Bad News and get in touch with their blood lust. Because after 9/11, there is so much left to be satisfied, and our blood lust is the core issue that should outweigh any other concerns on this planet.

And while we are at it, what's all this huffing and puffing about Ford's Funeral, and people not attending. And the Liberal Media continuing to focus on Dead "Servicemen" in Iraq, instead of focusing on all the Good News.

If we just stick to the core issue, the satisfaction of our blood lust, everything will make sense, and everyone can get back to the real issues that really need our attention.

Like Shopping for deep discount trinkets at the mall, Britney's latest exploits, Gobbling Fast Food, Chest-Beating for the Sports Team, Beating the shit out of anyone who gives you an awkward look at the Tailgate Party, stopping the gays from taking over, catching up on your favorite Reality TV Shows, deciding what munchies to get for the Playoffs, checking out the latest styles of yellow ribbons for the SUV, and petitioning Ford and Dodge to make the 2008 F150's and Ram's big enough to take up BOTH sides of the road like they should have been doing years ago.

Everyone just needs to chill out, Pop in the Lee Greenwood CD and be proud we live in such a prosperous, special time.

And by the way.....

:sarcasm:

On a serious note, Morrissey was right.

Barbarism Begins At Home.

And what a Barbaric country we have become.

Are We Not Entertained?
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:31 AM
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1. we have a barbaric government and a barbaric minority which is bolstered by
the msm tacit approval.

i think sane and human is still the majority.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:35 AM
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2. Blood lust.....
actually IS what the Saddam execution is all about, it seems to me. I haven't read the numerous posts on DU about it. But I bet that all those Americans who still think Iraq had something to do with 9/11 believe Hussein was executed because he was behind the 9/11 attacks.

It's all just more Bread and Circus' presented to keep the rage up and keep Americans focused on some mythical foreign enemy, instead of on the Coporatists who are wrecking our country and our planet.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:35 AM
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3. lol. nt.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:36 AM
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4. And just consider--if Saddam had lightened up
the drop wouldn't have been fatal.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:47 AM
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5. It seemed all too quick to me. I don't know why but it's as if his
execution was hurried up. The trial drug out but before we knew it, he's on TV with a noose being put around his neck. I, personally, had to turn my head because I didn't know if they were going to show his hanging in its entirety. Don't say the "F" word or the network will be fined $300 thousand dollars and don't show anything with sexual overtones or there will be a fine, but violence doesn't seem to have a cap on its exploitation.

Of course, Bush got his wish, Saddam Hussein dead, and we all know why . . . because he tried to kill poppy Bush. Not because he killed the Kurds. They can say that all they want but we were allies with Iraq when he did that? They were fighting Iran and we were helping them. We weren't calling him a war criminal for that then. Saddam Hussein's Iraqi army killed 5,000 Kurds in a 1988 chemical weapons attack on Halabja near the end of a bloody, eight-year war with Iran. Where were the screams for revenge then? Why no trials against humanity then, almost 20 years ago.

It's all been a vendetta for a little man with a little brain, and he doesn't care how many die at his alter of greed, power, money, and oil. Knowing this type of man is still in charge of this country for almost two more years creeps me out. He has shown he can make sure a lot gets done in two years.

How pathetic is it that he keeps the gun that Hussein was found with in his hole, which supposedly was given to him by the troops that captured Hussein. It's his trophy of triumph. I'm surprised he doesn't have Hussein's head mounted as well. Of course, that would be too much . . . but who wants to bet he got the rope they hung Hussein with.

I wonder when he will make it a priority to find OBL and all of those who helped to support the attack on 9/11. Are we even fighting Al Quaida to get OBL? Haven't the Taliban taken back Afghanistan since we have totally forgotten it yet again?

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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:26 AM
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7. Admission of criminality
It was definitely hurried. It's pretty obvious that they knew international oppoosition would grow and that the trial itself was a sham. It was a lynching committed against a lawful forign head of state. But they already destroyed the national museum, library, government itself: it's the assassination of a country, its history and the very structure of society. It's Iraq that was murdered.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 02:11 PM
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19. Well put. (nt)
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 02:30 PM
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21. additionally, quickly done to diss Ford's Funeral..
after the Woodward revelations, the Bushes were left stunned and speechless.
Better to headline Hussein's hanging than Ford hanging the Bushes out to dry, posthumously.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 10:55 AM
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6. When you realize that the last public hanging in the US
was less than 100 years ago, perhaps what is happening is that we are reverting to what used to be, sadly, commonplace. Our nation has a history of blood lust, be it in legal executions, duels, or lynchings. I think we thought we had risen above this, but it is obvious that a portion of our population has not.
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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:32 AM
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8. The ultimate flip-flop
It used to be common thinking on both sides of the Atlantic that in peopling most of the US, Europe had sent its most adventurous, independently-minded and forward-looking children to settle a New World.

Now Europeans are more likely to see it as a lucky purging of all that was most reactionary, savage and rapacious in the Old Continent. And who's to say that they're wrong?

It's truly heartbreaking.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:43 PM
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14. Well, why not? The wee "cowboy" likes his "wanted dead-er- alive"
frontier justice.

:eyes:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 11:58 AM
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9. Ewww... Lee Greenwood is such an ass.
I have a personal story about him, too, but since people might think I'm lying, I'll forgo the story about why I dislike him.

;)
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timetoleave Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 12:24 PM
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10. Maybe it was just me but..
did the whole scene of the hanging, the darkness of the room, the backroom feeling, people screaming in the background, it seemed to me to be a sick bunch who could do this, and I had a sick feeling that people here in our country could be happy about that type of thing. I don't care what he did or we say he did no one deserves what happened in that building in the darkness.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 02:17 PM
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20. It wasn't just you. I did not feel justice was being served by the hanging of
yes, an evil dictator; however, this was a vendetta, and it came across as such. It really bothered me. My husband even asked me why I was so bothered by it all. I told him that man murdered the kurds in 1988, back when they were fighting Iran for us. We, the U.S. even gave them the chemicals (did we know what he was going to do with them . . . hopefully not), but when you look at our own pharmacological companies testing drugs on those dying of AIDs in Africa and/or even the healthy to save money, who else should be hung? Why wasn't Saddam tried for Crimes against humanity way before now? This was so staged and yes cruel in my opinion.

According to Dante's Peak (I'm obsessed with this now), Bush will make level seven . . .the level of the sea of blood where they continually drown over and over (waterboarding the Demon way, lol) in the blood of those who he ordered the death of in wars. He may even see Saddam. If only this was a factual truth to be known.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:29 PM
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11. people need to stop telling me to lighten up about things.

I am perfectly capable of determining what I consider to be a
critical issue.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:24 PM
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13. But you don't seem to be capable of spotting sarcasm very well.
:hi:
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:50 PM
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15. oops.

maybe I do need to lighten up . . . about the stuff I need
to lighten up about. :evilgrin:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:02 PM
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17. No worries. my friend. The world is so out of control
I can only hope it lightens up on us. :)
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:05 PM
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18. a marvelous point.

maybe the reason we are all so cranky is because events have
been going against us for so long.

right up until november. :evilgrin:

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 01:35 PM
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12. I tend to agree with you, TheWatcher, although I would put it in the positive.
That is, we need to reject this image of The Hangman, consciously, and replace it with an image of love, hope and peace, and of rebirth of our democracy in the coming year. Although there is reason to believe that the Bush Junta may have had ulterior motives in silencing Saddam Hussein (what he knew about them could be one; some kind of deal with the Saudis could be another--the Saudis being religious nuts, Saddam having been a symbol of secular Islam), still, I think that this hanging was a conscious effort by the war profiteers who are running things to destroy the hope Americans may have felt for the New Year, as the result of the Democratic election victories in November and other events, and to re-orient us back to Death, Destruction and Despair. I really do think that the Dark Lords are playing mind-games like that. They have utterly failed in the matter of propaganda aimed at specific policies. 70% of Americans oppose the Iraq War! 70%! And other stats indicate huge rejection of the Bush Junta's fascist policies across the board (and have for some years now). But their one success has been to make the great American progressive majority think that we are the minority, and to demoralize and disempower--and, above all, disenfranchise--us. The hanging of Saddam furthers that success--makes the great majority who reject the war and all fascist policy--feel bad. Feel despair. Feel that there is nothing we can do to change this Culture of Death.

But there IS something we can do. It takes a conscious effort, but it IS possible to re-image our culture and our future. I wrote about this a few days ago, in a thread called "Death = Bush," about countering The Hangman with our own images. The thread and comments, here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3034424

And as for positive action combined with positive imaging, try http://www.climatecrisis.net/takeaction/whatyoucando. This site is about Al Gore's movie, "An Inconvenient Truth" and lists what you can do in your home to solve the problem of global warming, for instance...

---Replace a regular incandescent light bulb with a compact fluorescent light bulb (cfl)
CFLs use 60% less energy than a regular bulb. This simple switch will save about 300 pounds of carbon dioxide a year. If every family in the U.S. made the switch, we’d reduce carbon dioxide by more than 90 billion pounds! You can purchase CFLs online from the Energy Federation.

---Move your thermostat down 2° in winter and up 2° in summer
Almost half of the energy we use in our homes goes to heating and cooling. You could save about 2,000 pounds of carbon dioxide a year with this simple adjustment. The American Council for an Energy Efficient Economy has more tips for saving energy on heating and cooling.

---Choose energy efficient appliances when making new purchases
Look for the Energy Star label on new appliances to choose the most efficient models. If each household in the U.S. replaced its existing appliances with the most efficient models available, we’d eliminate 175 million tons of carbon dioxide emissions every year!

These are very simple things that can substantially reduce global warming. All we have to do is do them ourselves and spread the word among family, friends, neighbors, community. Americans tend to be very cooperative when we know what needs to be done, in any crisis. We are a people who likes to help and likes to feel that we are doing good in the world, and we are very organized and industrious about it. It's part of our national character. Our problem right now is that there no leadership at the top--zero, zilch--and the leaders who could influence this situation don't get air time from the war profiteering corporate news monopolies. We have to do it ON OUR OWN. Just DO IT. Don't be passive about it. Don't wait for leadership. Make it happen in your small pool of influence, and imagine your action rippling out to everyone. We can act democratically--and get something big done at the grass roots level--without national leadership! Imagine!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:57 PM
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16. I am full of bloodlust, let's bomb the Vatican and hang the German Pope
:sarcasm:
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