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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:36 PM
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Bush Iraq Troop Increase is a message to Dems: F---You
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 03:43 PM by JunkYardDogg
What exactly is the real purpose of Glorious Leader George the Ultimate Warrior Bush's
obsession with sending 20,000 or 30,000 more American troops to Iraq?
If this is a military tactical decision,
why has it been conceived and promoted by the non-military Bush administration and not the
majority of experienced military leaders, except for the military leaders whose jobs (positions)
are presently controlled by the Bush Regime?
What would these troops be used for?
Training of Iraq police/military personnel?
No, they have had 3 years to do this- without giving them the necessary
weapons and equipment to defend themselves, all we do is put uniforms on them so
that they get massacred on a daily basis.
Plus, the Iraqi forces have shown no effort to fight.
That leaves only one military scenario-
To pursue a full on assault on Sadr City and attempt to wipe out Sadr's Militia.
This will be Fulluja squared, with massive civilian causalities and will generate
opposition to the U.S. so great that no U.S. influence will ever be accepted.
This will probably happen and it is the plan of an out of control egotistical power
crazed maniac punk who thinks that he is a real tough guy and thinks that he
is anointed with the power to beat any and all forms of opposition into submission.
This is a very likely scenario and is doomed to produce extremely negative consequences.
But the real root of Bush's obsession with sending more troops is driven by the classic and
defining nature (re: values) of Bush's mentality and existence.
Throughout Bush's entire life, he has been able to not be encumbered by
normal legal and moral restraints and barriers. Bush has always been able to
do what he wanted to do, mostly on impulse without much intellectualizing,
and he has been able to get away with this behavior without penalty.
Bush has existed his entire life in his own world of uncontrolled behavior
without bearing any consequential responsibility. Bush has never tolerated anybody
dictating to him orders and this defines his governance philosophy.
Thus explaining his obsession with sending more troops to Iraq, no matter what
America says.
This is Bush's maniacal stance to show America and the Dems that he can do whatever
he wants to do, nobody is going to give him orders, he is the Great Decider, and
America, the Democrats, and any and all opposing his decisions can go Fuck themselves.
This is a power play by the Bush Regime to show the Dems that they don't mean shit and have no power
to stop him. This is his war and he is going to do what he wants with it.
You want to tell somebody how to run a war, then go start your own war.

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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:40 PM
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1. He still has to ask Congress for funding...
and there's the rub....
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:46 PM
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3. They'll find a way around it
These sleazy bastards are capable of anything
I wonder what exactly is the threshhold at which Congress will actually say NO MORE.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:43 PM
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2. it's a shot across the bow

at some point, the congress will have to deal with another funding bill,
which will more than likely include the surge.

the choices will be to "fund the troops", while avoiding a pretty thorny
issue in 2008 (abandoning the troops), but at the same time becoming on
some level complicit in *'s war. or dump the whole damn mess, and take
the chance that the country isn't as dumb as the rethugs think they are
next year.



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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:50 PM
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4. It is not an easy answer
Morally the answer is plain and simple
But politically, it is still complex
If they go into Sadr City,
and it turns to shit,
it will be hell to pay
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 03:52 PM
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5. no, there's not.

that will be the exact moment when pelosi and reid either
earn their stripes, or drag the party down with them.

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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:10 PM
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8. I think it will take some Catastrophic event to trigger it
But, sometimes it is actually something small
which breaks the Camel's back
The Bush Reich has absolutely no respect for Democracy or the
rule of law, their behavior is predicated on whatever they can get away with
and whatever they want to do

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:32 PM
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14. Yep
either Reid supports Senator Leahy's proposed amendment or he doesn't. Leahy is proposing restricting funding to no more than 150,000 troops.

Here's a snip from the Brattleboro Reformer:

Vermont Sen. Patrick Leahy, a Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, is having discussions with other senators about legislation that would restrict the president's use of the military.
He said the "only way" a withdrawal would occur is through the budget process.

"I don't know anyone who believes we'll see an end to (the Iraq war) the way we're doing it now," he said in an interview. "It's time to get out of there

<snip>

http://www.reformer.com/headlines/ci_4919970
"the best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:24 PM
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15. That is a fairly good immediate and workable idea
N/T
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:03 PM
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6. Personally, I think he wants the troops to go after Iran
I think he wants to nuke Iran, and then go in with troops--doesn't matter if there's fallout there, after all they've already been exposed to depleted uranium.
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greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:04 PM
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7. the political strategy is,
"this thing is going in the shitter, make the Dems cut
off funds, them blame them for the catastrophe that
inevitably follows",

the personal imperative is to say "fuck you" to his Dad.
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hijinx87 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:13 PM
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9. it could be a "win-win" for *

if congress doesn't fund the war, they are the fall guys. if they
do, it is suddenly "our war", too.

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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:17 PM
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11. Did you see "The Good Shepherd"?
Matt Damon's character was based partially on H.W. Bush
and the son was essentially George W., who was a total fuck up,
trying to show that he knew more than Daddy.

I think that if Blood Bath Bush tried to attack Iran,
the Military leaders just might refuse and stage some sort of Junta
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:17 PM
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10. GOP Senator Dick Lugar said today he wasn't sure he would support Bush's surge
Bush is saying FUCK YOU to a lot of people, particularly to Poppy's cronies. The troop surge is Bush's public temper tantrum.
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 04:23 PM
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12. Jeff Gannon would support Bush's Surge
Bush's behavior is classic Teenage know-it-all Fuck you attitude
mixed in with delusions of being Julius Cesar
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 05:22 PM
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13. The Narcissant Bully does not reason nor care for others...he is in a realm within
a psycho, a nut, posing as normal....but in fact, far from the norm...

He will do as he thinks/wants...OUT of CONTROL with delusion...

Read Carl Jungs take on the dude...google got 56 or so sites.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:44 PM
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16. that is is message to AMERICA
and to EVERY THINKING PERSON
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 12:11 AM
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17. Bush* has lost this war...but he can't admit defeat .
Since he knows he HAS TO CHANGE THE COURSE...he has only two options:

1. Admit defeat/failure and get the f*** out of there. OR

2. Increase the number of troops and have a surge toward victory.

Notice he isn't saying increase the troops...he's saying a "SURGE".
Now he is doing something new and creative (without giving McCain any credit). Now we will have to wait a year or more to give his surge a chance of success or blame it on the wimpy Dems for defeat. He'll string that out till after the 2008 election and he's out of office. One way or the other he'll NEVER have to admit defeat.

Bush* knows we can't win the war in Iraq (his war)...but rather than admit another FAILURE in his screwed up life and admit Father knew best...he is perfectly willing to let another 1000+ US troops die or have their limbs torn to shreds plus destroying our military and bankrupting our treasury. What the hell kind of a man could make that decision? Are his lucky numbers 666? Was that bulge on his back during the debate his big long tail rolled up in disguise?

I just had an ominous thought...maybe we could have another 9/11 and save his ass again. Good Lord! I'm upsetting myself! :scared:
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JunkYardDogg Donating Member (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 01:49 PM
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18. This is a classical Karl Rove Power Play
This troop increase has nothing whatsoever to do with a military campaign, unless the 20,000
or 30,000 troops are sent into Sadr City, and they would have to destroy it in order to claim
a "Victory", which would only be an immense loss of civilian life and lead to increased
fighting by Iraqi resistance fighters.
No, this is a classical Karl Rove move to intimidate and bludgeon domestic political opposition
( now not limited to just Dems) in an effort to show the Dems that they are powerless to stop Bush
and that he can do whatever he wants to do. 'Cause he's the boss.
Military Strategy and future positive results have nothing to do with this and are irrelevant.
This Socio/psychopath is sacrificing American lives to show how powerful he is.
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