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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:26 PM
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Reflecting; milestone marker 3,000 US military deaths in Iraq - Who else has seen Vietnam Wall in DC
Who else has seen the actual Vietnam Memorial in Washington DC? I have, in DC, and the replica Vietnam Wall at the state capitol in Olympia, and the traveling Vietnam memorial replica wall - total of three times over the course of my 55 years. I know everyone who sees the wall is overcome by the sheer numbers of names engraved into the black walls. I know my experience of visiting the Vietnam Wall in DC was a visceral experience and personal experience for me....a vigil I dreaded to undertake, for it was the first time in my lifetime that I would see the actual real Wall.

My own history back to that era was firmly in a container with the lid tightly secured and tucked away in the cobwebs in my mental attic. Popular opinion back in that era was not favorable to returning Vietnam veterans or their families. It was safer for us as a family then to quickly put it away, leave it behind and try to move on....

You've heard that expression recently, I'm sure -- get over it and move on. That was one heard repetitiously after the last Presidential election. And yet, were it so simple to get over it and move on, would we be in another situation in Iraq not unlike the situation of Vietnam? I pull the container from my attic, brush off the cobwebs, loosen the lid and let the history wash over me.


I cannot be silent this time, I cannot let young wives and children endure what I endured in silence so long ago. I have something to say this time and I do, and it resonates with many, I know, I can tell by their reactions and actions. Others have something to say and it resonates with many, and eventually it will resonate strongly enough that the outcry of no more cannot be missed. But not yet, not this year, perhaps next year.


The Vietnam Wall Memorial in Washington D.C.


O walks by the first wall which is not so tall and I begin to take in the engraved names. I then walk to the next wall and the next and the walls grow increasingly higher with more engraved names filling out the growing spaces on the increasingly higher walls. By the time I am feeling hopelessly overcome and overwhelmed, I look down the length of the wall to see how much further I will have to walk and how many more walls and engraved names I will have to see before I have completed the walk. As the heighth of the walls reach peak height, the walls then begin decrease in size again until I have reached the last wall and the 'end of the Vietnam conflict' and can now exit the memorial walk of the walls.


That walk registered with me hard as I made that walk, holding my vigil candle, September 2005 in Washington DC. As I walked the walls, I remember thinking at that time, what will the Iraq memorial look like when it is built and how many names will have to be honored in that memorial. I remember reflecting back to when I was young and my then husband was drafted and sent to Vietnam.


I was a young military wife, pregnant with our first child, in my first 'real job', marking time anxiously, hoping he would come home alive to participate in the life of our first child - or even wounded and alive, but please, not dead, not killed in action. I felt empathy wash over me as I contemplated the young wives and children of the young men and women deployed in combat today in Iraq and Afghanistan. I could feel so strongly their youth and the acuteness of loss...how will the new memorial begin to encompass the magnitude of the loss is what was reeling in my mind. It is so much more than numbers.


What I didn't notice until reading David's story at Washblog was that indeed the Vietnam Wall Memorial is designed to reflect back your own reflection. It occurs to me how appropriate that symbology was then in Vietnam war era and now in Iraq/Afghanistan era....we are each and every one of us complicit somehow and deep reflection is encumbant on each of us as we memorialize today at this milestone marker that as of today 3,000 U.S. troops have been killed - we go into the new year with that number as a marker. It is all we have because no other symbology is permitted at this by this Administration.


We have no way to acknowledge, reflect, mourn, honor except for what the civilian community provides in the way of vigils to try to grasp the overwhelming loss, to try to honor what has already been lost, to try to scream attention that the future memorial to honor the war dead in this era already has too many names...


But then today is the day before a new year, and traditional celebrations tonight ought to be a bit muted to reflect that today is also the day our country has reached another milestone in Iraq. Perhaps when the fireworks are shooting off from the Space Needle in Seattle after an evening of drink, merry-making and celebrating, some will remember to remember that for 3,000 families it is not a celebration. Rather it marks that our country will move into another new year the same way we did last year - with our military still in Iraq, adding more names to the future memorial that will mark this time.


Let us reflect and be reminded it is our own reflection we see in the Vietnam memorial - and we see our reflection because we are the living, mourning the dead. Perhaps it will strengthen resolve in each of us who reflect today that with a new year we must act to do something different so that we are not re writing this memorial next new year's eve.


by Lietta Ruger on Sun Dec 31, 2006
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:31 PM
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1. Me every year a few of us Vietnam vets Wash the Wall
I know to many of the Names there .There for the grace of God goes I. Very close to haven't my name there too
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:43 PM
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7. Thank you for washing the Wall - Question please?
Does it require permission or authorization, or is this something pubic can do voluntarily? Is it limited to Vietnam veterans only to be able to wash the Wall?
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:48 PM
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8. We have Permits every year
Anyone can! Some times people just join in and help.
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:33 PM
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2. I was totally unprepared for the Viet Nam wall, thought it was going to
be just another Wash DC tourist attraction.

Instead, seeing it was was one of the most profound experiences of my life.
When I was there, the silence was overwhelming despite the crowds,
the energy so sad and intense. The rows and rows of names hit me
right between the eyes in terms of the huge amt of death.

I have never forgotten it, and it has been about 15 yrs ago that I saw it.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:36 PM
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3. Several trips, to honor so many.

You've said so well what we "elders" knew as soon as this damn invasion started....


"I then walk to the next wall and the next and the walls grow increasingly higher with more engraved names filling out the growing spaces on the increasingly higher walls."

RIP, brave soldiers
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:37 PM
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4. Many times. I touch the same names each time. Then some more at random,
just in case there's someone who hasn't had his or her name touched recently.

Redstone
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:38 PM
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5. Several times when I lived in Maryland
Who would have thought that a black granite wall could be so moving. Everytime I have been the people were all over the place. Even in the winter.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 06:39 PM
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6. Vietnam Wall has so many names of my comrades who died for nothing.
Edited on Sun Dec-31-06 06:44 PM by jody
Perhaps those of us who opposed invading Iraq should start a fund raising program to build a memorial to the thousands of U.S. troops who will die in Iraq for a lie and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died as innocent victims.

If we could take the initiative, perhaps it could become a symbol to We the People that we can never let another atrocity like this occur again.
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:23 PM
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16. How 'bout
....a w as the form on which the names are placed?
*******************

Saw the real wall 15 years ago.... a vet approached me as i dried my eyes and i felt a real kinship flow between us. No, i was lucky by my age to not even get close to having my name on that wall. Knowing what i know now, had i been old enough, they'd of found me in Canada, or already in jail as a resister.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:11 PM
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9. Thirty-five of my best friends are on that Wall.
And another twenty-one were left off because they died in Laos.

Seeing it once was enough for me. That Wall almost killed me all by itself.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:33 PM
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12. My heart goes out to you for such a large loss of friends
Thank you for your courage in posting and sharing a hard personal truth TomInTib.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:23 PM
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10. The name of my eldest 1st cousin is on the first tablet/stone to the right of center: killed in '65
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NCarolinawoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:27 PM
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11.  I have a loved one's name on that wall.
Beautiful man, inside and out. He was a Captain in the infantry, and was killed at the age of 24.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:35 PM
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13. 24 years - so young
it seems this nation cannot be reminded enough to remember....
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:38 PM
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14. My son's reflection, finding a cousin's name on the Wall.
I didn't notice until reading David's story at Washblog was that indeed the Vietnam Wall Memorial is designed to reflect back your own reflection.

www.gordonsofmaine.com
Scroll down past my great-grandfather's Medal Of Honor, to see Billy at the Wall.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 07:48 PM
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15. thank you for the image - it does show how the reflection
of the Wall works. I can see in the image the reflection of your son as he finds his cousin's name on the Wall.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-31-06 08:34 PM
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17. I visited in December 1982...
just weeks after the official dedication. My uncle, the General, dropped me off from the street and I trudged through a sea of mud to visit the wall in the rain. The turf had not yet been repaired/replaced from the damage during the dedication ceremony, and many of the permanent walkways had not been laid. Totally alone, muddy and wet, it was a surrealistic visit, but somehow it seems a fitting visit that I will never forget.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 03:29 PM
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18. I worked in D.C. when the wall was being built and saw it every day
on my drive into work as it was being constructed. I recall how much the conservatives who were such rabid supporters of the war, hated the design. They wanted something more "heroic" with statues and such. They were name calling anybody who saw the utter perfection of the memorial's design. It wasn't the first, nor was it the last, time they were proven wrong about Viet Nam.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-01-07 11:31 PM
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19. My little cousin...
David Andrews. I sobbed when I found his name.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-02-07 12:17 AM
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20. The idea is - is to not have a long wall for Iraq as the nam wall for an illegal war
We could then be only grateful that the people stopped this war before it grows as large.
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