Edwards is saying Gore lost 2000 election

[MIMStigator]

Edwards said he should be nominated since no democrat has won a presidential election without 5 southern states. Which 5 did Al Gore win?

[Jackpine Radical]

1. FL & TN

were probably 2 of them.

[Freddie Stubbs]

2. Gore lost Tennessee

[mohc]

4. In the same sense that he lost the election

Which makes this discussion pretty silly.

[Jackpine Radical]

11. I think it was one o' them there

sarcastical-type posts.

[Jackpine Radical]

7. No foolin', Freddie?

[_Jumper_]

38. No

Gore lost TN.

[Freddie Stubbs]

3. I don't think that he was counting 2000 as a win

[MIMStigator]

5. Then he lied

nt

[Freddie Stubbs]

55. I'm not sure that most Americans think that Gore won either

[beyurslf]

6. No democrat has WON without 5 states.

Is Gore the President right now?

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[forgethell]

45. Gore DID lose

Even admitting that * cheated, lied, stole, whatever - * sits in the seat of power, lives in the White House, and sends the troops wheresoever he wills, and Gore does not.

Maybe we had a "moral victory", maybe Gore legtimately belongs in the White House, and maybe Bonnie Prince Charlie was king. But WE LOST. So why are we quibbling about this?? I have never understood what we are accomplishing by this except raising our blood pressure.

the thing to do is make sure the right guy wins in 2004, not whine about past injustices, even the 2000 election. But hey, that's just me. You guys have fun.

[AP]

8. If Al Gore had won one, he'd be president today.

[AP]

9. If you need to hear Edwards say Bush wasn't elected,

listen here:

http://www.commonwealthclub.org/archive/03/03-12edwards-audio.html

If memory serves, it's in the first ten minutes of the Answer portion.

[MIMStigator]

12. Then what is his point about democrats needing 5 southern states?

It's crappy he is saying Gore lost.

[Padraig18]

16. Gore DID lose.

The electoral college elects the POTUS, and they chose GWB. Edwards is absolutely correct.

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[Padraig18]

20. He didn't say that.

As I pointed out in a previous post, the electoral college elects the POTUS, and Sen. Edwards is absolutely, 100% correct in saying no Democrat has been elected as POTUS w/o winning at least 5 Southern states.

[MIMStigator]

23. his 5 state comment means he thinks Gore lost Fla

Gore won Fla

[Padraig18]

25. His comment means nothing of the kind. n/t

[AP]

30. Did you listen to the Commonwealth Club Q&A?

[HFishbine]

10. I think he meant to say five southern states or

five supreme court justices.

[MIMStigator]

14. Heh n/t

nt

[Padraig18]

13. Al Gore did NOT win in 2000. n/t

[MIMStigator]

15. your candidate Dean says he did

:shrug:

[Padraig18]

17. Do I look like Howard Dean?

He has his opinion, and I have mine.

[MIMStigator]

19. your opinion that Bush won Fla is wrong n/t

n/t

[Padraig18]

22. Did I say he did?

Well, did I? Provide the relevant quote where I said that.

[citizen snips]

21. Edwards did not say that.

He did say that the dems need 5 southern states to win does not mean Edwards said Al Gore lost.

[MIMStigator]

24. no he said no democrat has won without 5 southern states

he didn't say a democrat needs 5 this time but won before without them

[Padraig18]

27. And Sen. Edwards is correct.

No Democrat has ever been elected POTUS w/o winning 5 Southern states. The POTUS is elected by the electoral college----NOT by popular vote. American Government 101.

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[Padraig18]

39. That's absolutely LIBELOUS!

How dare you call a Democratic presidential candidate that? :grr::nuke::wtf:

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[Padraig18]

48. Completely out of bounds!

:wtf:

[spooky3]

56. Thanks, Padraig18, your attempts to help

are appreciated by this Edwards supporter.

[Padraig18]

58. YW!

I don't dislike Sen. Edwards at all, and this sort of crap is uncalled for, IMO. :hi:

[AP]

60. Thanks from me too.

[tobius]

50. "Edwards is a

repuke enabler..."? wow... a bit quick on the trigger there cowboy.

[ShaneGR]

28. I don't understand this thread, Gore lost in 2000 and he didn't win 5

southern states. What's the point?

[Padraig18]

29. The point is to stir shit.

Isn't that pretty obvious? :shrug:

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[Padraig18]

44. WHAT????

Edwards is speaking a historical truth--- NO DEMOCRAT HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED POTUS WITHOUT WINNING 5 SOUTHERN STATES--- EVER!

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[leyton]

32. Gore lost, actually.

He may have won the popular vote in Florida, but it was never certified that he did, and Constitutionally speaking, he lost. And besides, if he had won five Southern states, he would be in the White House right now (and this forum wouldn't exist!). And he didn't, and so he's not.

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[KFC]

36. How petty

Gore won zero southern states in 2000. One if you give him Florida.

Well short of 5 either way.

[MIMStigator]

37. I don't give him florida the people of Fla did

The supreme court and Edwards took it away

[markus]

40. Technically, he did

His legal strategy would not have led to a recount that would have handed him the election.

A state-wide recount would have given it to him.

Sad, but true. He lost on a technicality, but lost.

That doesn't make the behavior of the Bush Administration any less henious. I'm not crying in my tea cup. I'm banging it against the bars demanding my freedom from Bush.

[MIMStigator]

41. the state wide recount was what the supremes stopped

it was already in the process

[Dookus]

53. incorrect...

there was never a state-wide recount in Florida, nor was the process of doing one even begun.

[Crunchy Frog]

42. Just out of curiosity

do most of the people posting on this thread even know that this message board was founded on the premise that the 2000 election was stolen? Do most of you even care, or is your only purpose here to score a point for your candidate no matter what he says?

[Padraig18]

46. WTF does that have to do with ANYTHING?

Edwards is CORRECT!

[MIMStigator]

47. I am shocked anybody is letting Edwards get away with

agreeing with scalia theft so he can try to get nominated

[Padraig18]

51. E-D-W-A-R-D-S I-S C-O-R-R-E-C-T!

Should I give a American Government 101 lesson here in how the POTUS is elected? I assumed that most people learned that in 8th grade.:wtf:

[AP]

49. Did you listen to the Commonwealth Club Q&A?

[MIMStigator]

52. not interested in anything scalia enabler Edwards has to say now

n/t

[AP]

54. especially since it would disprove your premise?

Is this motivated by noon exit poll results?

[MIMStigator]

59. premise is that Edwards using scalia theft to benefit himself

he wants people to think they have to nominated him because nobody has won without 5 southern states but Gore won without 5 southern states.
If you say he's only saying they didn't get to be president WHAT'S HIS POINT?

he's using scalia theft to try to get nominated.

[tobius]

61. ok

nite nite

[DemDogs]

57. Desperation does not look good on you

Clark is gone tonight, tomorrow, whenever. And if Clark supporters want to keep shooting blanks until the end, so be it.
You are twisting what Edwards said. Listen to him again. He says pundits say that Democrats need to win in the South because (the pundits say) we haven't won without five Southern states.

[Skinner]

62. This is flame bait.

Locking.