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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 08:52 PM Original message |
Obama: Leads in Hypocrisy Too |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Instead of campaigning for a candidate you like...you'd rather campaign against one you don't. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 12:17 AM Response to Reply #1 |
32. That was kind of what happened to Dean in 04 as I recall. |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #32 |
45. And Clark...and just about everyone else. We do more damage to our own |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks so much - who is YOUR candidate? n/t |
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ChairmanAgnostic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. lemme guess. hrc might fit? |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Nah I don't think so - I think there's a naughty sentence |
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beyurslf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I;m an HRD fan and I don't bash any Dem on this board (well maybe Lieberman) |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. Lieberman is in the Lieberman for Lieberman party. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #8 |
40. (lieberman is not a dem--he's an independent. don't forget it |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I'm not overly fond of any of them. |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Well, lets bash them all then |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
36. Well then maybe you belong on Libertarian Underground. n/t |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
38. Mike Gravel? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. What's so hypocritical about what he's doing? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Surely you jest? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
19. No not at all but thanks for explaining. Just because he listens to them doesn't |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
33. That's what Cheney said about Exxon, wasn't it? What's wrong with a little input? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:37 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. If I knew I wouldn't be asking. lol |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
98. I like Gravel. I saw him on my computer at the Nevada hoedown sponsored by the |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. One more thing. You're kind of making it sound like the "wives" thing happens all the time |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #12 |
53. Read some of the articles on this year's ethics bill |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. Waaaaaaait a second. He's not getting stock or investment advice here. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. when a lobbyist goes into the office of the Majority Leader, he's |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Lobbying is not an in-kind contribution. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
66. Advising on policy issues IS nt |
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johncoby2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
6. Do us all a favor and campaign for Guillini |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. He takes no money from lobbyists--thus he is not beholden to them. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. Interesting that after Obama's superb fundraising success |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I do believe you're right |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:56 PM Response to Reply #16 |
67. Perhaps you should take it up with Sirota |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #67 |
93. Sirota didn't post it on DU nor did he supply you the title |
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cliss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. You're right. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Well, heres hoping donors don't start asking for "refunds" |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Yep, it would be terrible for Hillary if her donors do that. |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. LOL - thank you! n/t |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Everything Hillary is doing is on the up & up.. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
54. Where does Hillary stand on this? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
80. I do not think Clinton has a ban on such contributions. |
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Connie_Corleone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. Sirota is an Edwards' supporter. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Sirota and others are feeling one thing: |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I noticed taht, too. Spanks Obama & Clinton & then follows up by blessing Edwards. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. feh |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. No, Sirota is not the designated Messiah. I like what rinsd had to say about him |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
56. So Sirota is "whiny" because Obama campaigned for Lieberman. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Deleted message |
mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:31 PM Response to Reply #56 |
79. You can keep that picture of your brother right there on your own desk where it belongs |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. What? ... you only want politicians that TAKE their cash? |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. My thoughts exactly! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
68. Whatever floats your boat. If hypocrisy is okay with you, who am I |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #68 |
95. Hyperbole & breathless panting @ stealthy, liar candidates isn't okay. |
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grannylib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. Frankly, I'd prefer a candidate who listens to everyone, even lobbyists... |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-05-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. especially if he's listening to environmental lobbyists. nt |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:32 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Yes, and Obama strikes me as that kind of person. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
69. So it's okay with you that he listens to lobbyists -- PROACTIVELY |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:37 AM Response to Original message |
39. I like Sirota. He's so clean and articulate. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #39 |
72. I just don't get this line of thinking |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. You make a good point, but my belief is... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 04:06 AM Response to Original message |
41. Obama's keynote address at the 2004 Democratic convention in Boston |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
60. Now THAT'S the way to support your candidate ... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Hello, djmaddox1, and a happy Friday to ye. |
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ebayfool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Come from a long line of 'rock farmers' myself ... |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Whoa. I love your family. Haven't met a one of 'em but I love 'em anyway. |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #60 |
94. Seconded. Old Crusoe is an established credible resource, in my book. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:00 AM Response to Original message |
42. There will always be lobbyists & there will always be a President...Whenever there is an outbound & |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. No kidding. Geez, by the sound of it here, one would think he accepted a bribe or something |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
46. It will take a lot more than this to make me think Hillary should be our nominee. nt |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Morgana never implied that she was doing this on behalf of Hillary |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I never implied that was what she was doing. |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
73. Then your post was every bit the non sequitor it seemed like |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #46 |
55. I'm not sure who Morgana is supporting... |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
47. "I never have liked the guy all that much" |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
48. At least point out that Sirota is an Edwards supporter |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Actually, the very first link in her OP provides that information |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. OK, thanks, mtnsnake nt |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. Sirota makes that clear -- people are supposed to read the |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #75 |
96. Yeah, right |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
57. Can someone explain this thread to me please? |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
58. ho-hum, why not a positive post about somebody you like? |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
76. I haven't found anyone I like |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Dont give up hope just yet. Im thinking of throwing my hat in the ring! |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:08 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. then wouldn't you have to |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:51 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. lol you were never off |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Oh, you |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
59. Sounds like all the front-runners to me. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
61. Fuck Sirota and his scorched earth policy towards Democrats who haven't obeyed his bellows (nt) |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #61 |
74. Wow. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Where did this insanity start? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Insanity started with the language in your subject line. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. aah shaaaaaaaaaaadup |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
70. OMFG! Gee, let's attack the Founding Fathers! They had lobbyists!!!! |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
71. I love DU, but if you changed the name Obama for Hillary in this thread, it would have been LOCKED |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Sorry, larissa |
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RacingBobbie (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
87. That is what |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
88. Agreed... |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:25 PM Response to Original message |
78. You've accomplished something amazing...uniting Obama and Hillary supporters.. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
85. Every time I read a Sirota article about Obama |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-06-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
92. Sirota is a polemicist, and a damn good one |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Apr-07-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. The problem is that Obama is a progressive |
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