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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:16 PM
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Two-year relationship, beginning in the Spring of 2001 (drudge)
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:17 PM by OutlawCorporatePolls
"The nature and details of a claimed two-year relationship, beginning in the Spring of 2001, between a young woman and Kerry is at the center of serious investigations at several media outlets.

After being approached by a top news producer, the woman fled to Africa, where she remains, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal."

http://www.drudgereport.com

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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:19 PM
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1. If this is true,
then Kerry has a REAL problem on his hands, and so do the leaders of the DLC.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:14 AM
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59. Years ago, The Washington Times "broke" the story of Clinton's love child
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 12:15 AM by oasis
by an african american woman. That right wing fairy tale also had a shelf life of 36 hours.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:19 PM
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2. I just don't believe Kerry would be THAT stupid
He planned to run for President and he saw what happened to Clinton. Maybe something in his past, but recently. No way.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:23 PM
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I'd like to think that
but who knows?
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:29 PM
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54. One word.
Monica.
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aldian159 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:19 PM
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3. Correct me if I'm wrong
but didn't Drudge say we caught bin laden sometime in 2002?

Even if he didn't, Drudge is the William Randolph Hearst of this century: You provide the pictures, he'll provide the war.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:21 PM
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4. Oh great
:grr:

This better not be true. I pray it isn't.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:22 PM
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5. Would Lehane have known about this?
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:43 PM
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17. Well yeah, but what was he supposed to do?
Especially if it was this recent?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:45 PM
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18. He's supposed to be the one who shopped this story
around.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:49 PM
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22. Come to think of it--you're right!
?

This gets stranger and stranger.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:23 PM
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6. Several investigations at
various media outlets? Why didn't he list them? A thought just came to me. Is this why Dean is hanging in there? If this has legs we will hear about it undoubtedly. I really hate dirty politics.
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OutlawCorporatePolls Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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7. uh oh
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM by OutlawCorporatePolls


...
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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8. He listed the media outlets earlier. Wash Post, AP, Time,
and a couple of others.
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Edwards4President Donating Member (339 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:42 PM
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56. So media outlets investigating a rumor is proof that the rumor is true?
We've come to a strange point when noting that others are investigating a rumor is treated as substantiation for that very rumor.

I don't know whether to believe any of this, but the methodology stinks to high heaven.

Remember when Clinton's personal life was being shoved in our faces while George H.W. Bush's shenanigans were ignored? When asked why the double standard, the press insisted that the difference was that in Bush's case, both he and his paramour denied any involvement and thus, there was no story, while in Clinton's case, the woman (Gennifer Flowers) came forward with her story.

My, how the worm has turned. As far as I can tell, no woman has come forward to accuse Kerry of anything and, in fact, it appears that at least one woman had to flee the country in order to avoid the avalanche. Yet, despite the silence of all involved in any of this, it looks like the press is going to treat this as fair game.

It's sickening. Kerry doesn't deserve this. No public figure does.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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11. In his earlier "scoop"
Drudge claimed that was why Dean was staying in. But then why did Clark drop out, and why is he endorsing Kerry if he's supposed to be the one who told this to reporters?
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:29 PM
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16. dirty politics?
dirty if made up. If true and nothing "wrong with it", why keep relationship hidden? keep her around, show up and campaign by his side.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:47 PM
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19. Well they're denying it
Drudge claimed that half a dozen news outlets were investigating the allegations against Mr Kerry, but most of them denied doing so last night.

Leonard Downie, executive editor of The Washington Post, mentioned by Drudge, said: “This is the first we’ve heard that we’re working on a story that we’re not working on.”

A reporter with Time magazine, also cited by Drudge, said the weekly magazine was as puzzled by the story as the rest of the world.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-999812,00.html
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:01 PM
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28. Interesting
I hope this is true.
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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9. Isn't the first step self vetting w/your own campaign? n/t
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:25 PM
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10. She fled to Africa??? Isn't that where Theresa is from???
this was ridiculous. Now it's downright absurd.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:28 PM
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14. I think she is from Algeria.
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:29 PM
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15. yes Teresa is from Africa....
...but it's a pretty big place man.

This does seem ludicrous. For a guy who is so hell bent on making a run to the white house, to have been fooling around with some intern in 2001 (!) for TWO (!) years seems utterly out of character!

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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:14 PM
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45. Yeah, she's from Madagascar, I think
Dontchaknow, her family is hiding the intern in their basement?

But I love the Africa idea . . . "Hmm, where can we send her? I know! Let's send her to Africa!"

Utterly ridiculous.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:19 PM
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50. She's from Mozambique. n/t
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:04 AM
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57. Right!
Mozambique. That's right. Explains the Portugues speaking. My bad.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:27 PM
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12. The "out of Africa" bit kills me
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:39 PM by Robb
...Drudge wants Repubs to think Kerry had an affair with a black intern. :eyes:

(on edit): Oh, geez. Read this.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:54 PM
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25. Yep. And notice the writing style--the exclamation marks, etc.
.
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Tinoire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:06 PM
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35. Won't work.. The right-wing sites already have her picture up
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:08 PM by Tinoire
to include photos of her and Kerry (G rated ones ok?).

She's as blond as blond can be. Classily dressed. Nothing trampy.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:13 PM
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44. they already have her picture? so they know who she is?
what's your take on all this Tinoire?
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DoNotRefill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:17 PM
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47. Where?
eom
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:19 PM
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48. Noah's article in Slate is a MUST READ.......how things are spun.....how
whatever this story is with Kerry, will be spun. Excellent!
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:28 PM
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13. Kerry's supposed to be on Imus tomorrow---
OUT OF AFRICA: KERRY PREPARES RESPONSE TO MEDIA PROBE OF RELATIONSHIP

http://www.drudgereport.com/mattjk5.htm


Man, Drudge is really mapping all of this out.
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:48 PM
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20. Look at your souce...
that explains it all. :eyes:
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:48 PM
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21. Check out the new rules.
You may not post any more Drudge-shit. Thank God.
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YouMustBeKiddingMe Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:50 PM
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23. And how many Drudge stories have turned out to be lies?
I'm not going to take anything from Drudge seriously.
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:50 PM
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24. According to Drudge there is a tape everyone is trying get
get their hands on. I had to run out and heard it on the radio (I think he was on the O'Reilly show but not sure since I don't tune in often). The comparisons to the Clinton scandal are going to be unending.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:55 PM
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26. An audio tape?
?
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:58 PM
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27. A videotape would be it. Over. Done. He could've gone 14 for 14...
...and it wouldn't matter.

Later.

RJS
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:01 PM
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31. Somehow I doubt this tape exists
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:06 PM by lancdem
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:03 PM
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33. nobody's saying it was RAPE
unless I didn't see what somebody wrote in this thread, nobody is saying it was rape!
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Monument Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:05 PM
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34. haha you probably meant Tape, not Rape...i hope it was a typo
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:07 PM
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38. Yes, it was a typo
how embarrassing.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:06 PM
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36. That's "tape", right? With a 't'?
Dr. Freud, please check your messages...
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:07 PM
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37. whoa. No rape, just an alleged affair claimed by a lying lunatic: drudge
eom
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:03 PM
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32. Yep. Some kind of horndog video tape would do that.
No doubt about it.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:12 PM
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43. So.........why would there even BE a video? Hmmm? A Plant who was wired
to be with Kerry sounds more like it. Unless Kerry wasn't planning on running for President. If he was there's no way there would be a tape.

Or, he should have been a helluva lot more careful. Even "cellphones" have "eyes" these days...One can't be too careful.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:28 PM
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52. I don't know...skwmom said there was a tape.
It sounds eerily familiar...
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Skwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:01 PM
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29. I don't think he specified.
He said it was hotly sought after (or something along those lines). I had to go into the grocery store so I didn't hear his entire portion of the show.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:08 PM
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39. Trixie (Lucianne) probably just wants hits for her site...
;-)
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CabalBuster Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:09 AM
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58. Kerry was annointed by the media and they don't want to break the story
Remember how many contributions he has received from big media conglomerates already. If the media is sitting on this story it would make sense that they're protecting Kerry, or giving him time to prepare for damage control...something the media never gave Dean.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:09 PM
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40. OFGS! At the center of News Investigations? They've been sitting on
this story waiting for the appropriate time to break it. You've got to have a very dark laugh at that statement from Drudge. The MEDIA KNOWS IT ALL! ALL THE DIRT. They don't need to INVESTIGATE! SHEESH.

I wonder when they will start reporting on their own affairs and piccadellos. Never....

Even Howie the Whore Kurtz with his Repug Lobbyist Wife is still at WaPOO and on CNN spewing out his Media Pump Ups......disgusting.
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:11 PM
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41. This is so utterly ridiculous
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:18 PM by Tim_in_HK
Why would anyone listen to Drudge?

Did Drudge also report that this was a reason that Gore passed on Kerry for VP in 2000? Or was that some other wunderkind posting on DU?

So, let's see . . . Gore passes on Kerry for VP in 2000 for an affair that will take place about 6 months after that election (as Drudge now says this 'affair' started in Spring 2001)?

edit: clarification
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:12 PM
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42. People, it's a VERY BAD news day for the Bush Administration
Drudge will do ANYTHING to distract our attention from the newest AWOL revelations, the attacks in Iraq, the latest unemployment numbers, the new story about the Halliburton whistle-blowers, the latest ABC News/Washington Post polls....you name it.

Rove is TRULY AFRAID of losing the election. They've already begun to attack the frontrunner, whom they expect to run against in November.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:19 PM
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49. just thinking the same
we are the only folks falling for this slime.
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:17 PM
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46. First Drudge said it was the reason Gore didnt pick Kerry in 2000
Now he says the affair was in 2001, something is wrong with this story. And by saying Africa is he trying to say she is black. This is starting to sound alot like that Bill Clinton has a black child to a protitute story way back when.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:20 PM
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51. He didn't say it was THE reason...
...he said something like Kerry's rep as a womanizing playboy and that he MIGHT do something like this caused his not being chosen in 2000. BIG difference.

Later.

RJS
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59millionmorons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:28 PM
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53. Your wrong
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:32 PM by demdem
He put up a piece by Craig Crawford saying these rumors have been around before the 2000 elections. Good Grief

CONRESSIONAL QUARTERLY'S CRAIG CRAWFORD SENDS TO ASSOCIATES IN E-MAIL: 'Drudge item on Kerry intern issue is something Chris Lehane (clark press secy) has shopped around for a long time -- it was one reason the Gore vetters in 2000 shied away from Kerry as a running mate choice -- their conclusion that it wasn't bad enough to disqualify him, except for the fact that they couldn't risk it as they were trying so hard to distance themselves from Clinton's personal failings (note: Lehane worked for Gore at the time -- and briefly advised Kerry during this campaign). The Kerry camp has long expected to deal with this, and have assured party leaders they can handle it.' Crawford reports that Lehane strenuously denies involvement.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:31 PM
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55. I listen to Imus almost every day, yet Drudge seems to think...
... Imus has some kind of "scoop" with an earth-shattering exclusive Kerry interview Friday morning.

Imus has talked about Kerry's Friday appearance all week. Today he had Edwards on, and was plugging Kerry for tomorrow's show.

:eyes:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:32 AM
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60. Rumor mongering - read the rules for this forum
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 12:33 AM by yellowcanine
8. If you make a factual assertion about a candidate that is not generally accepted to be true, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

Drudge is not a reputable source, hence this discussion violates the rules. Moderator should lock.
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