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Sat Apr-21-07 07:49 PM
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As a parent I have snapped at my child before...Alec Baldwin is being swiftboated |
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Just Thursday, I snapped at my gifted wonderful 15 year old... partly out of frustration, partly out of fear
She goes to a high school with over 2000 students, I have to leave work to go pick her up as she doesn't qualify for transportation. She is usually at the spot we agreed upon by 3:15 it was 3:30 and she wasn't there.
I called her cell...voice mail I called her best friend...voice mail
I then called her cell back and left a message that if she wasn't at the spot in 3 minutes she was going to have to find her own way home...
I didn't know what was going on and I was getting frustraited and kind of scared...
WELL she was actually talkign to her teachers because she knew she was going to be absent on Friday and she was getting her assignments...
you don't think I felt about 2mm small??????????
IT HAPPENS>>>WE ARE NOT PERFECT
ALEC IS BEING STEAMROLLED BECAUSE HE DARE SPEAK OUT against the bush corruption
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Sat Apr-21-07 07:52 PM
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1. Two threads supporting a Drunk abusing his child earns you an |
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Sat Apr-21-07 07:55 PM
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4. then you are ignoring the message |
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and are one of those that stick your head in the sand...
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:22 PM
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Greenbriar's life will never be the same for having been ignored. You sure showed him. How DARE he have a different opinion!
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Sat Apr-21-07 07:52 PM
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2. What names did you call her? n/t |
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Sat Apr-21-07 07:54 PM
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3. I think I said she was being thoughtless |
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because she knows we have a schedule with little room for delay
I soooooooooooo apologized to her many times over
I felt really bad especially as she was being so responsible with her classwork
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Sat Apr-21-07 10:20 PM
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20. Well, if you didn't call her a pig, Alec Baldwin has ya beat. n/t |
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:24 AM
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47. you are a .... you are being a.... |
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see you cant help it. you innately know the difference and use it in your language.
you are a thoughtless pig indicating who she is as a person
you are being thoughtless indicating behavior that can change
difference
good parenting bad parenting
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:01 PM
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5. Sorry greenbriar, but what Baldwin did was substantially different... |
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than what you are talking about! No one, but no one should talk to their 11 or 12 year old daughter that way.... He deserves all bad things that are coming to him with respect to this issue.
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:03 PM
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I am also a parent...
I HAVE NEVER CUSSED MY KIDS OUT.....
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:03 PM
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7. If it would have been Toby Keith we would never have known. nt |
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:04 PM
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DU is just crawling with people sporting $400 haircuts and struggling on $150,000 a year who never ever ever say a cross word - yet support media pundits calling college girls nappy headed hos.
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Sat Apr-21-07 09:06 PM
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18. this is the first post on this nonsense that made me laugh! |
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:28 AM
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I am always as amazed by those who claim to be perfect parents as by those who claim to have perfect children.
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:19 AM
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36. Well now wait a minute there |
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No perfect children - but I do have a perfect grandson and don't anybody dare to tell me otherwise!
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Sun Apr-22-07 03:15 PM
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49. nothing like rash generalizations to get your point across. |
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:05 PM
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9. How could anyone defend what he said? |
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He doesn't deserve the love of that little girl. Calling your daughter a pig, what a filthy bastard! :puke:
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:57 AM
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42. and if she was acting like a pig, what's wrong with saying so? |
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:06 PM
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10. And turning the whole thing |
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into a public feeding frenzy after the message was made public isn't affecting the kid? It was stupid but it was even more stupid to make it public. How embarassed is the girl now?
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:13 PM
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11. I absolutely agree with you on that point.... It was mom I believe who did the public thing... |
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on this, and at this point I am hard pressed to think that either one of these idots deserve to have custody of this girl... This is just pure BS...
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:14 PM
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12. It seems that he was taking out anger at his ex onto his child |
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Hearing more about this story, it seems that they are both making her life hell by doing this. I went through that crap and still have serious emotional issues because of it. It isn't alright to make a child feel bad because one parent has issues with the other parent and make the child feel that all of this is her responsibility. A parent is suppose to take care of and be supportive of a child. Despite all this, this is common even amongst seemingly decent people so perhaps it isn't a good thing to make a big deal out of it. I hope that they work things out though and relize that they should be putting their child ahead of their negative feelings for one another.
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:27 PM
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13. i`ve done the same thing several times in my life |
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yup no one is perfect that`s for dam sure. what is kimmy`s excuse for making this public?
will kim ever work in this town again?
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:49 PM
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14. Does anybody know what the child did and does constantly |
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all you heard was what his wife released to the press for spite. AND if he had not been a vocal critic of bush the press would have completely ignored him. You are correct -- it is an attempt to swiftboat the man.
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Sat Apr-21-07 10:52 PM
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22. Who cares what the child did. |
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"child" being the main factor. He is an adult. I have never called my kids the disgusting things that he did. On edit yeah his ex is probably crap also but she did not force him to leave that hideous message.
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:53 PM
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15. I don't get it? So you've been a bad parent too at times? Why should Baldwin or you get a pass? |
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Edited on Sat Apr-21-07 08:56 PM by aikoaiko
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PS. Maybe that was too harsh. But if you are saying that you talk to your child the way Baldwin did, then I think you would deserve the same criticism.
Sure no one is perfect, but no one should get a free pass from making a mistake like talking to a child that way.
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:56 PM
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16. ignoring the obvious...but you are perfect...I get it |
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Sat Apr-21-07 08:57 PM
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17. I edited and added to my post after you posted the above. |
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But what is the obvious here?
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:14 PM
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You call having your mistake plastered all over the internet, newspapers and tabloid shows to be judged by the nation a fucking free pass? Now THAT is funny. :rofl: Thank god the media was able to take a break from reporting Bush's atrocities to cover a domestic dispute.
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:36 AM
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31. yeah, thats what some people are saying -- that it shouldn't be in the media -- we should ignore it |
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I guess you do too.
Now THAT is sad.
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:12 AM
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34. okay, be his judge jury and executioner |
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join free republic while you're at it
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:23 AM
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37. yes, I made a judgment about his actions -- you don't like it -- so sorry for you. |
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:47 AM
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Alec Baldwin did something you didn't like. So sorry for you.:nopity: HERE COME DA JUDGE!
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Sat Apr-21-07 09:18 PM
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19. I stand by Alec...until I hear more of the true picture.... |
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Sun Apr-22-07 02:20 AM
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40. Yup, new tops...but I had to say sumpthin....these pubs are swifting Alec cause of his views |
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New Top: Get Gonso Out Now....but how?
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Sat Apr-21-07 10:31 PM
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As nasty as Baldwins' words are, this is an intensely personal family matter and the recorded message was aired as ammunition in an acrimonious child custody battle. Baldwin and Basinger need to pull up their socks and quit using the kid to act out their hostility toward each other.
Still, I can't help feeling this is none of our business.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:07 PM
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23. Alec Baldwin is a pig and the lowest form of scum. |
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I hope someday he can get counseling and begin to redeem himself, but right now he's the lowest form of humanity. Talking to a child like that in inexcusable.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:04 AM
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44. oh please - get a grip |
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:08 PM
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who have never said the wrong thing to their child in the heat of anger.....a round of cookies and blue ribbons to all.:sarcasm: That said....who are you to judge? Do you know ALL the facts, or do you only know what the RW controlled media wants you to know to cast an opponent in the worst posssible light? Are the times that he's been a good, loving father going to make the news as well? Better mind your p's and q's and live a mistake free life from now on or be a fucking hypocrite. Judge not lest ye be judged. I guess if I don't like what you have to say or have a different opinion, I'll just have to put you on ignore, like any 10 year old, freeper or certain posters would do. This was a domestic dispute that is really none of our business and have been thrust into the middle of anyway. I guess your self righteous indignation made you forget the true enemy for a bit. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:38 PM
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28. Gosh people, don't turn into wussies! |
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Geez, I've been called worse than a pig by parents and I love them to death. My grandmother used to whip me with a switch. Parents today coddle their kids too much and try to be their friends. That's why these kids are out of control nowadays. I'm glad Alec is giving his daughter tough love. He doesn't want her going out being like Paris Hilton, and I don't blame him. My parents have screamed at the top of their lungs at me before when I was little.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:06 AM
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45. kicking truth to power |
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give a kid an inch they will take a mile
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:21 PM
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48. it's an either or? no judgment on you part. to all the parents not calling kids names |
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you are wussifying, trying to be friends, no discipline, why all the kids are out of control.
nah... you are right in your non judgment of baldwin how all us bad people that dont call our childrens name and to suggest it isnt good parenting are the worst of worse.... in non judgment i am sure
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Sun Apr-22-07 12:39 AM
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32. Absolutely -- ignore verbal abuse, its none of our business. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 12:39 AM by aikoaiko
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:11 AM
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33. oh, i guess it's your job to judge without all the facts |
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:17 AM
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35. he said it -- he admitted it. |
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Edited on Sun Apr-22-07 01:17 AM by aikoaiko
What exculpating facts are you imagining that might make that rant not verbally abusive?
Maybe he was practicing a new monologue from a script where he plays a deranged father incapable of controlling his emotions. ok -- then I would be wrong.
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Sat Apr-21-07 11:34 PM
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27. He is not being swiftboated |
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He is being embarrassed by a private tape being made public.
This is NOT a political group putting millions of dollars behind claims that are lies.
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Sun Apr-22-07 01:40 AM
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it was the freepers' job to stand in judgement of others. It's easy to look at this and say "Well, I'D NEVER do that." Truth is, you never know what you're really capable of or what you'd do until the moment is uopn you. A momentary weakness or lapse of judgement is all it takes. Yes, he said some really horrible things. You know for a fact that he doesn't regret it? Or that his child doesn't forgive him? Once again, unless you've never made a mistake, said something you regret, or done something that you wish you hadn't, who are you to judge? Try making a mistake and then having it publicized to the world. You want to cry for a child? Cry for the scores of them KILLED or MAIMED in Bush's War on Decency ®. Since I apparently have to state the obvious, this should have been a private family matter. A bitter ex leaked it to a scandal hungry press. It was already a matter being taken up in court. It is there Mr Baldwin will be judged and if deemed necessary, punished. You may all hang up your robes now and go back to your real jobs. Or, if you're still blood hungry, I guess you can form a lynch mob and go give him some frontier justice.
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Sun Apr-22-07 09:52 AM
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41. I don't think his daughter will be ruined for ever by her father's comments |
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to her.
when kids act up it doesn't hurt them to be told they are acting stupid, rude or whatever.
kids will take over if you let them.
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:00 AM
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43. a lot of people on this thread seem to be projecting |
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Sun Apr-22-07 10:21 AM
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46. i don't consider the 'story' even remotely newsworthy |
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other than as a corporate media attack against an outspoken liberal. i bet ROSIE is next.
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