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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:36 PM
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Ladies and Gentleman, if this turns out to be true about Kerry
And trust me, I hope it is not. The last thing we need is another Democratic with Marriage infidelity problems.

BUT, if this does turn out to be true....

Say hello to the Democratic Nominee:

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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:38 PM
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1. The Kerry supporters are acting like it should be beneath DUers
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:42 PM by Bombtrack
to pay attention to this

It's still a mystery both whether it's a true story, AND who got this rolling AND what there motives were

Nobody is going to convince me that the whitehouse would rather face Kerry than Edwards AND if they did leak it , they'd wait until JK won the nomination to break it
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:31 PM
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27. Maybe we're not as interested in John Kerry's cock as some others...
seem to be. Hell, what do I mean "seem to be"?
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:39 PM
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2. could you start a few more threads on this?
We haven't had enough.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:19 PM
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22. Re-draft Clark! (nt)
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 11:57 PM
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33.  As long as he doesn't endorse Kerry....
...even I might look at him twice.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:39 PM
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3. You've got it
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:47 PM by Rowdyboy
and its an excellent outcome, if it should come to pass.

On edit let me add, I think this entire story is bullshit, total Drudge fabrication, and that John Kerry will be my nominee. However, if I'm wrong, and if JFK2 really is an sex addict that just couldn't resist,....well, its better to find out now than in October.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:39 PM
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4. You know, I honestly hope it is not true
If it is, it's very damaging to the party.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:40 PM
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5. "I don't mind, I don't mind..."
"No, I don't mind..."

Later.

RJS
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:43 PM
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6. I actually agree with you, to a point.
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:47 PM by BillyBunter
I both hope it isn't true, and if it is, Edwards will sweep the field -- unless it takes time for the story to develop legs. If that's the case, Kerry could have things locked up by the time the scandal breaks fully, and that would be a disaster. So if there's something to the infidelity stuff, and it can't be silenced, Kerry needs to drop out fast.
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waldenx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:44 PM
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7. the last 2 days
have proved that democrats and people in general care more about politicians than ideology or progress. Its either hating Bush or worshipping Kerry/Clark, we will never evolve.
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Edge Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:46 PM
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8. I heard the man was single when all that was going on...
why should it be an issue???
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:48 PM
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9. My understanding is that they're saying it was an active affair between
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 08:49 PM by Rowdyboy
2001-2003, after Kerry married Theresa Heinz-Kerry.
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jab105 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:48 PM
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10. If this is true...
we all need to support Edwards right now...the democrats would be sunk if this has legs... (and, I am a Dean supporter)...
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:04 PM
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16. I don't understand.
If you are a Dean supporter, why are you saying we need to support Edwards now?? :shrug:
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:21 PM
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23. Because, because, because, because ...
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 09:21 PM by stickdog
because of the electable things he does!
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Anwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 11:42 PM
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31. Ah.
:D
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:49 PM
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11. Only diehard Pukes are going to pay any attention to this.
Americans demonstrated how bored they are with sexual innuendo politics when they elected Clinton TWICE despite non-stop sexual exploit accusations against him. Add to that a bogus 'impeachment' for lying about an affair and well, that spin just won't do the job. But Pukes are very unimaginative. They keep dragging out the same ole same ole stage props and don't notice that everybody is asleep.
:boring:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:05 PM
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17. Thank god the diehard Pukes don't own the media.
Oh, wait.

Seriously, this is not good for any of us.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:11 PM
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20. They also did when Clinton was pres. Made no difference.
We have to wake-up. The boogey-man is only in our imaginations. Pukes know this and play us like a fiddle. I say we turn it back on them. * has some REAL dirty laundry that's getting a lot of public scrutiny. Focus on His Lowness and not bogus Drudge claims (whether true or not, cause WTF cares).
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:22 PM
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24. Yeah, Americans want issues -- not an electable biography.
Oh, wait ...
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:50 PM
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12. I am wondering which scandal is more important AWOL or infidelity problem?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:58 PM
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13. Depends if you are a Republican or a Democrat.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:00 PM
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15. Didn't Hurt Arnie Or Guliani...
The people who are lame enough to make something like this an issue, will vote for GWB no matter what. If you don't like Kerry don't support him -- but don't let details of his personal life as skewed by evil hypocrites make up your mind.
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robsul82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:06 PM
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18. Well...
Arnie was a movie star and everyone wanted to say, "Hyuk, I voted Ahhhhhhnuld the GOVERNATOR!"

Guiliani's scandal WAS bringing him down, bit by bit, then came 9/11. And there ain't no big buildings in Massachusetts that can be knocked down to save Kerry's ass if this story takes off.

Later.

RJS
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:08 PM
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19. probably AWOL-if true, but AWOL isn't what happened. n/t
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:27 PM
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26. Neither. However, one is 30 years ago, and the other is 2 years ago.
More importantly, Kerry's whole electable veneer is based on a selective retelling of his otherwise quite risque (as opposed to risky) biography.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 08:59 PM
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14. In a pigs eye. One thing does not mean the other. Edwards still can't
stand up for the foreign policy thing. No matter how
wounded bush might be in that area, we are in a foreign
policy mess. Edwards doesn't inspire me there.

Frankly, he doesn't inspire me at all but good on you
if you like him. Lots of us don't.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:16 PM
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21. Are you sure that the Boy Wonder hasn't taken care of business
down under?
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:26 PM
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25. Oh, Please....Edwards is too good-looking for Drudge not to....
come up with some salacious rumor about him! I mean, come on now!

He's going to attack the frontrunner, no matter who he is.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 09:42 PM
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28. Bring it on!
If it's true, then we just retalliate with Bush's not so-squeaky-clean sexual past. I don't think the voters are going to pick a war pig over a war make chauvinist pig this time around.

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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 11:32 PM
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29. Whether or not this story is true,
it's just a hint of what the eventual nominee will have thrown at him. I'm beginning to think I don't want that sort of thing for my favorite candidate, and it's hard to want it for any of the ones I don't care for.

In reality, this story is probably (again, whether true or not) just a ploy to get the Bush AWOL story off the front page. If we can have Kerry's alleged affair dominating the news cycle, pretty soon a lot of potential voters will totally forget that Bush never completed his National Guard service. And won't care.

Meanwhile, Kerry's credibility and (oh, that magic word) electablility are in serious doubt. So in the next primary (Wisconsin, right?) more people will vote for Edwards or for Dean or maybe even for Kucinich. And so it will go, until either Edwards is front runner (or maybe Dean gets back there, it doesn't really matter). And something will happen to knock the new front runner down. The eventual candidate will be so weakened by all this, it will be difficult to mount a strong campaign.

Remember, people are so disgusted with Bush that nearly any Democrat would win in a free, fair, and honest election. But that's not what we're going to have, not by a long shot.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 11:34 PM
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30. I would support Edwards - but it is not true
so - looks like Edwards could be VP?
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-04 11:45 PM
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32. With all the focus on electability, it may not matter whether it is true or
Edited on Thu Feb-12-04 11:46 PM by GumboYaYa
not. Personally, I don't think candidates should be held to any higher standard in their personal lives than ordinary people, but the Dems seem skiddish this year. Any perceived blemish can be fatal if the media makes a big deal of it.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:08 AM
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34. Rumor mongering - this thread should be locked
If you make a factual assertion about a candidate that is not generally accepted to be true, you must provide a link to a reputable source to back up your claim. Allegedly "innocent" questions which are actually an underhanded effort to spread rumors are not allowed. If you really need to know the answer to your question, try Google.

Drudge is not a reputable source. As far as I can tell, he is the source for this story.
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John_H Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:33 AM
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35. Which means our chances of beating bush go to 40/60
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:35 AM
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36. Any source for that stat?
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