My Daily Rave: RE Immigration

[primative1]

So we are being treated to another "day of protest" by our guests.
What a better time then, for the feature of my daily rave to be IMMIGRATION.
Here is todays nugget for you all to digest .... spanish language telemarketing. What a treat to come home every day and find my message box filled with ramblings in a bizarre foreign tongue, enticing me to buy who gives a crap what.
I can ignore the babble in the malls, I can quickly skip past the babble on the TV and radio, but why in the hell do they have to start ringing my phone off the hook?
Piss off ...
Since when did having no interest in speaking english become part of the prerequisite for becoming american?
As far as I am concerned, if you don't speak english you can not and never will contribute one iota to the society I live in. Just more noise on the highway ... like we really need more noise.
So thats my two cents ... enjoy the flaming.
I don't care.

[slackmaster]

1. Have you put your phone number in the national Do Not Call list?

It's been pretty effective for me.

[primative1]

5. Yeah ... Yeah ...

We're on both the state and federal no call lists.
They did have a noticeable TEMPORARY effect a few years back, and even now it is possible to make on outbound call between interruptions but I'm still needing an abacus to count the daily calls.
Having to yell at people things like "what part of DO NOT CALL" don't you understand" isn't much fun after 20 years of it having no effect.

[ret5hd]

6. Don't forget...

an abacus is an invention of those non-english speaking foreigners that make no contribution to the society you live in.

[dave_p]

2. Hmm...

"Since when did having no interest in speaking english become part of the prerequisite for becoming american?

If it's good enough for a President, why shouldn't it be good enough for telemarketers? You mean you listened when they did speak English?

And just remember that to British ears, having no interest in speaking English is a prerequisite for becoming American.

[MaineDem]

3. Is that you. Lou Dobbs? n/t

[ret5hd]

4. WAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

Too bad the society you live in doesn't have Chinatowns and Koreatowns because my society has them and they contribute a lot, even if its just good food!

Too bad you're too dense to get on the no-call list, 'cause i did and it works great!

Too bad you're a communist that wants to tell business owners how they conduct THEIR business with THEIR money! Commie!

Too bad you placed so little importance on your education that you skipped taking a foreign language class, so that now even SPANISH sounds like a "bizarre foreign tongue"!

what an idjit! :rofl:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

7. bizarre foreign language?

People have been speaking Spanish on this continent a lot longer than they've been speaking English.

Frankly, you've got no business using the term "bizarre" to describe anything else besides yourself.

[primative1]

8. Actually ...

Since you are so into history; Iroquois was once spoken by people around here. Spanish was never spoken by people who were native to this region.
I would consider learning to speak Iroquois as this is likely land that was once theirs. I have adopted a number of their principals. These seem well suited to the region.
But I would never consider learning to speak Spanish. Why should I? I have no desire to move to or visit Guatemala.
What I wonder most is why "we" liberals are so quick to defend the status quo.
The most interesting court decision to come down in decades, a few years ago came with the summary "separate is rarely equal".
So why defend the status quo?
Who benefits?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Why defend the status quo?

Isn't that what you're doing with this bizarre "rave?"

[primative1]

10. Let me Elaborate .....

I think everyone who has put a few years behind them can think of a few points in their lives that they would call defining, ones that shaped their ways of thinking ....
Let me share one of mine.
Growing up in the blue collar wasteland of the 1970s I quickly learned that if I was willing to commute a few extra miles than my pay would increase dramatically the further I went. For a 40 minute commute it would increase 30% ... drive an hour it would rise nearly double ... all for doing identical jobs.
I played that game for a while until I finally went back to school to chase a degree and in one of my humanity electives I took a sociology course that laid out what I had been experiencing ... It was referred to as "systemic MAINTENANCE of an affordable labor pool" and went on to define certain areas including my own home turf.
A fine thing, I thought, imagining how many peoples sweat and blood and all of their real life struggles could be attributed to being included into the "affordable labor pool" which our society so proudly maintained.
Which brings us to today.
A nation of immigrant is what we are and blah de blah ... but a nation of immigrants who all rapidly were forced to assimilate to the prevalent culture ... at least until now. Instead we see an entirely separate culture, complete with media and marketing which enables todays immigrant to carry on as if they never moved anywhere. For fun some time explore the Goya food aisles at your local supermarket and tell me why these items must be maintained in separate isles ... isn't a can of green beans a can of green beans ... why segregate them? And why insist or at least be party to the acceptability that a large segment of the population will never be able to communicate with the remainder?
If you look at the lifestyles you cant help but wonder whos affordable labor pool is being maintained now.
Thats the status quo ...
The names change but the story remains the same ... over and over for infinitum until we just say no.

[MaineDem]

11. I'm sorry my grandparents "assimilated" so quickly

I wish we had learned their language and more of their culture.

I buy Goya products a lot...and Chinese and Thai and many others from the ethnic food aisle. I think you're really reaching with that one.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Maybe you should have taken some history classes

along with your sociology classes, because I don't know where you got the idea that all cultures quickly assimilated and didn't segregated. Furthermore, you seem upset that you've had to run into spanish-written advertisements, so I can't tell if you're for segregation or against it.

Until we just say no? No to what?

[primative1]

13. No To What?

For starters how about the Bush-Dem guest worker concept.
Ever seen one of those guest work camps? You tell me what it reminds you of.
So you didn't say, do you support the "systemic maintenance of affordable labor pools". Lots of people do. Great concept if your a big fan of feudal existence. No knock on you.
As to history ... The jokes on you if you read it in a book ... cause you know what, most of it is biased crap. Ask people who were around, some of them still are. They are great bounds of information.