Dear Obama and Edwards supporters...what are you willing to do to defeat Clinton?

[Clarkie1]

If Edwards and Obama supporters would join forces behind one candidate, they would be unstoppable...so, the question naturally arises.

Any thoughts?

[snowbear]

1. It's early and we have absolutely no idea who will emerge the winner.

Personally, I don't think it will be HRC -- but that's me.

I heard on CNN that a comment from the California delegates (after the event there a couple days ago) and thought it was interesting:

"If we vote with our brains, Richardson wins"

"If we vote with our hearts, Obama wins"

I don't believe the MSM polls one iota. They really do mean NOTHING this early on.

I'll support whoever emerges as our nominee.. but when I read threads on here about HRC already winning it.. it sure takes me back to the "Dean Days at DU".

The only thing that is guaranteed at this point is... It's going to be a long summer at DU!!

[Clarkie1]

2. Interesting quote. And what do we vote with if Hillary wins?

As MSM sheeple, I suppose.

[snowbear]

5. I dunno.. I might be able to come up with one for Edwards..

"If you vote with your hormones.. .. Edwards wins."

As far as the other candidates, we'll have to just come up with something..

[earthlover]

16. "if we vote with our fleece, Hillary wins...."?

[Connie_Corleone]

3. Vote in the primary.

I'm not interested in defeating Clinton. I would rather give support to the candidate I like...Obama.

[AtomicKitten]

4. I like your attitude.

And I really hate the otherwise pervasive negativity on DU.

[snowbear]

9. Ah c'mon AK... this is NOTHING yet..

I swear the 2004 days on DU of "Dean vs Clark" went on forever it seems. Despite what the polls said, Dean and Clark seemed to be the top two here (Dean was the top dawg) followed by Clark, then Edwards.

There was one very dedicated Bob Graham supporter early on, but I'm not sure what happened to him.

But I sure remember the day someone dropped in saying something about Kerry "winning it all".

The response here was: "OMG, Kerry actually has a troll!!!!"

This place was in SHOCK that a Kerry supporter drifted in.. and the bold prediction they made was met with plenty of laughter.

I'm not even sure if that person came back with an "I told you so" after Iowa?

It goes to show though... we don't have a clue right now.

I don't think it's gotten as wild and crazy as the last presidential campaign yet, but there's still plenty of time.

As we get closer to the election, the all nighters will start:

But once that nominee is named.. no matter who it is.. (and if it's anything like past elections, it won't be who we expect right now) - everyone will eventually come together in the end.

[AtomicKitten]

11. *

:scared:

[seasat]

15. "There was one very dedicated Bob Graham supporter early on, but I'm not sure what happened to him."

That was probably me. I'm still here. :hi:

[karynnj]

6. channelling Solomon today?

It would be far too early to even knoe who the stronger candidate would ultimately be. Although I often heard of the need for an ABC in 1976 and 1992, I don't know of any time where that type of motivation led to coallesing behind one candidate. I think it's the classic "Prisoner's dilemma" problem - where the majority (O + E) could get the outcome they least desire.

[bling bling]

7. What makes you think Obama supporters llike Edwards more than Clinton? n/t

[Clarkie1]

8. I didn't say I did. nt

[illinoisprogressive]

13. The reason for the resentment to Edwards is not him but, the treatment by supporters so,

If they agree to be nice and decent then we can join forces and knock out Clinton as she is the one who both supporters should focus on and not Edwards supporters knocking Obama.
I never understood why that is in the first place. why Edwards supporter rather than posting good things and why they support him and beating Hillary are focusing all their energies on knocking Obama.
It is not so bad here. but, on sites like Kos and mydd it is a constant thing. Never lets up and we, Obama supporters, cannot understand why they are so nasty about Obama and ignoring the real issue, beating clinton.

[bling bling]

21. I don't want to knock out Clinton.

And I'll be completely frank. People can say whatever they want to about Clinton, but nobody, and I mean that, nobody has more well-informed supporters on this board. The Clinton supporters by and large know their candidate. They look at the record, read the news, research other candidates, etc. And ironically (or not), I have found that the people who really seem to have it out for Hillary tend to be the most emotional, knee-jerk reactionary and most importantly un-knowledgeable of all my peers here.

Having said that, I'm wary of people who would campaign against Hillary but who are perfectly A-Ok with Edwards. And it's an amazingly, jaw-droppingly large number of people and even well-respected people such as KOS and other well known bloggers. I can't even begin to list out all the double-standards and hypocrisies that exist in order to hate her yet support him. The funny part about that is that Clinton supporters here actually HAVE listed out all the double-standards and hypocrisies about it using facts and links to prove their points but those things are just ignored around here and evidently all over the blogosphere as well.

It blows my mind but ultimately it makes me question the judgement of such people and thus their opinions on any matters become less and less credible. I come here to learn. And there is nothing that I place a higher value on than good, factually based reporting that takes the bigger context into consideration. I can't stand when I see misleading posts using selective snippets of articles or out-of-context quotes. If I want that crap I've got the MSM. I have higher standards for people who seem to care enough to seek out alternative political sites for their information.

And I've been very disappointed in what I've seen lately. Joining up with Edwards supporters is out of the question. The Edwards supporters may play ugly but I can live with that. It's their seemingly willful obliviousness to their own hypocracy, double standards, and denial that makes me want to turn and run far, far away. At least Clinton supporters offer explanations for her actions backed by speeches or whatever. Edwards people just scoff and accuse you of swiftboating. I get an earful but learn nothing. No thanks.

[Cameron27]

30. Bravo bling bling!

I couldn't say it any better! :thumbsup:

[wyldwolf]

10. apparantly some are willing to spin exaggerate, and fabricate when it comes to her record

..and repeat rightwing talking points...

[illinoisprogressive]

14. How about people just say that do not like or care for Hillary and be done with it.

[illinoisprogressive]

12. Let us have them first rock the primaries then, a vote to choose who is pres and vp.

[Colobo]

17. I don't have problems with either

so whoever has the best shot to beat Hillary will be, in the end, my candidate. Go Obama and Go Edwards!

[Tellurian]

18. Well who ya gonna sacrifice to gang up on Hillary?

Obama? The whole premise is cowardly and ill thought out.

Follow the leader over the cliff...:hi:

Sounds like a Jay Leno skit of the "Stupid Criminals" using their own debit card to rob the ATM.

[Colobo]

19. I prefer Obama and Edwards to Hillary

What can I do?

[Tellurian]

26. But you've got to abandon one to gang up on Hillary..

[mtnsnake]

20. As if Obama's supporters are going to ditch him for Edwards & vice versa. LMAO!!

Let's see. I am so worried about Hillary winning that I'm going to leave Obama by the roadside and join hands with the Edwards people. Yeah, that's the ticket...I'd rather abandon my favorite candidate just so another one has a better chance of beating Clinton. It doesn't get much more ridiculous than that!

So what are the Edwards and Obama people going to do? Flip a coin to see which one gets all the support? lol

[Adelante]

25. Scratching my head on this one

:D

But then, remember when Kucinich turned his Iowa caucus voters over to Edwards? I was like, whut??

[Tellurian]

29. He said he would do it this time as well..

[Adelante]

31. To Edwards?

Well, at least this incarnation is "anti-war"

[Tellurian]

34. Ahem, for Edwards..

a little bit of a conflict there, methinks-

[Tellurian]

27. Now you know what we're dealing with..

The OP dreamed up this idea as a S-M-A-R-T one!!

[mtnsnake]

32. In a weird kind of way, it's like the ultimate compliment for Hillary

...to think that there are actually people out there so worried about how powerful she is that they'll consider abandoning their own candidate to support another in hopes of knocking her off.

Wow, I knew the Goddess of Peace was going to be tough to beat, but I didn't know that it would take the combined efforts of all the other candidates and their supporters to beat her! lol!!

[Tellurian]

33. Have you been here yet?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3245100

This may be a pre-emptive Republican strike!

[AZBlue]

22. Working against any one person is so unenlightened and counter-productive.

It's only smart to work for someone.

[JI7]

23. what if many Edwards and Obama supporters have Hillary as 2nd choice

[mtnsnake]

24. homina-homina-homina

:evilgrin:

[zulchzulu]

28. Support whoever you want...take it to the streets...volunteer...sign up...

Why would Edwards and Obama "join forces" to defeat Senator Clinton? That's rubbish...or is it Survivor Iowa?