OVERRIDE THE VETO! The US Congress, both parties should

[texpatriot2004]

stand their ground unto the gates of hell on this issue. They should look into their souls and remember the oath that they each took to defend the United States Constitution against all enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!

* has taken the troops hostage and his demands are not being met so the troops are in trouble. This is on W's head.

DO NOT GIVE THAT SOB * ANY MORE $ WITHOUT ACCOUNTABILITY! HE CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH IT!

Stand your ground Congress and DON'T BACK DOWN!

Do the right thing and override that veto and in so doing hand that madman his ass on a platter.

[AnOhioan]

1. Let the veto stand

Bush just ended his own occupation...the money runs out in July. If Congress puts forward another spending bill then they extend what is now effectively a final act to the chimps unjust war.

[Xipe Totec]

4. We need to try to override the veto

by roll call vote.

Let each and every one of those repugs stand up and say they want more Americans killed in Iraq for no good reason.

Get them on the record, so they can explain it to their constituents in 2008.

[AnOhioan]

5. I disagree...Congress needs to concern itself with

other matters. No more discussion, no more strategic planning. Just move on and let the money run out...the occupation will end on it's own.

[Xipe Totec]

7. Respectfully, there is no more important issue

We have to touch every base. The American public needs to know where their representatives stand.

It is a critical step, before debating funding...

...to bring the troops home.

[AnOhioan]

12. I agree, bringing the troops home is #1.....

the chimps veto does that, even though it is not what he intended.

[k8conant]

2. No, let the veto stand and send no more bills. He had his chance! n/t

[wundermaus]

8. if only the democrats had the guts to stand firm...

and let the veto hang in the tree to putrefy... and as you say... he had his chance to fund his little adventure... now, let him rot with it.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. Don't give him anymore money period. The Veto is a Godsend! Now quit funding

the occupation and let's bring them home!

[Fresh_Start]

6. Not at all. Let the veto stand

Let the decider live with the consequences of his decision.
No more negotiation.
No more money.

[MGKrebs]

9. Bush says he needs the money to equip the troops?

Is he going to leave them in harms way without necessary equipment?

[orleans]

23. "Bush says he needs the money to equip the troops"

...you mean the troops aren't already equipped?

:sarcasm:

this should be a wake-up to the republics who support the fuckhead. note to morans: the troops are not equipped!

question to morans: how do you still support this asshole?

[Hippo_Tron]

24. He already does that

Remember "You go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had." Notice all of these charity drives to send personal items to our soldiers because the Pentagon doesn't pay for that stuff.

Bush doesn't give a shit about the troops or about the law for that matter. He'll find a way to keep us in Iraq until 2009 by drawing money from other places.

The fact is that the American people sent Pelosi and Reid to end this war and they didn't send them the muscle to do it with. If they wanted out of Iraq they should've either voted for Kerry in 2004 or sent Democrats a big enough majority to impeach and convict. Instead they sent them a razor thin majority and expected them to actually deal with a President that has no regard for the law.

America is getting exactly what it deserves. Two more years of the same and a bunch of symbolic gestures.

[Tellurian]

10. Hammer the Naysayers..

Call their offices until there are enough votes for an over ride!

[texpatriot2004]

11. Exactly! nm

[onenote]

13. unfortunately, it isn't going to happen, nor will allowing the funding to end

Check out the opinion polls. Democrats virtually unanimously oppose the way chimpy is handling Iraq (as do an extraordinary percentage of independents), but a majority of repubs still support him. Its an incredible split. The fact remains that repubs aren't going to break with their own supporters and vote to override. Just isn't going to happen.

As for the idea of not putting forward a new funding bill to replace the vetoed bill: bad idea.
While a majority of the electorate favors a timetable for withdrawal, that majority is smaller than the majority that thinks chimpy is mishandling the war. More significantly, a significant majority of independents (along with an overwhelming majority of repubs) opppose withdrawing funding and even the majority of Democrats who favor such an approach (51/41) pales by comparison to the sentiment among Democrats against chimpy's handling of iraq (5/93). I don't doubt for a minute that there are more than enough Democrats in the House (and definitely in the Senate) to create a majority in favor of a funding bill. Pelosi is not going to endanger the blue dogs and others who give the Democrats their majority by not giving them a funding bill to vote for.

http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

[pnwmom]

14. The voice of reason speaks again.

Thank you.

[Tellurian]

15. Well then. The new meme has to be "Bush is holding our soldiers hostage."

until the completion of his fortress project. Thats what the troops are there for. They're running interference with their lives to safeguard the completion of that huge complex being build in Baghdad.

[texpatriot2004]

17. Bush is holding our soldiers hostage nm

[wundermaus]

22. ah, the voice of selective reason... ala carte, much?

The great decider has spoken... the veto is all his to embrace... and to explain. Congress has been told in no uncertain terms... a funding bill with a time table will be vetoed... so the exercise of further stalemates is obvious... congress has other matters of business to attend. If the republican members of the senate want to help their old buddy-in-crime out of a self inflicted quagmire, then they can help the democrats over ride the veto. Otherwise... let the funds dry up... cause there ain't no more comin' down the ol' pipe. That well's done gonna dry up. Good Night, Dick.

[MGKrebs]

25. The problem with this logic is that it assumes that last weeks polls indicates

a static situation. But just as a lot of those people who expressed opinions in those polls came to those opinions based on whatever information they were exposed to, many opinions can be swayed with the proper agrument.

The Dems are pretty well positioned to defend their point on this: Bush himself has demanded exit strategies before; and Bush is basically saying he will keep troops in harms way even if he can't provide them with bullets.

[threadkillaz]

16. Send it back with a Budget equal to his Approval Rating.

Give him 30% of his Current Budget which will require him to have troops home by October without any timetable.

The $ will run out.

[Tellurian]

18. So, is every soldier in Iraq a Democrat?

The numbers for Republican approval seem extraordinarily high, if in fact their own sons and daughters are being wounded and are dying in Iraq. Are these people animals eating their young? Or are they like I said, all Democrats in Iraq?

Someone needs to do a study. This would be a typical Republican trick.

[onenote]

19. do you think the parents and families of our soldiers all oppose the war?

You need to talk to more people whose family members are serving in Iraq. While many are very unhappy with the situation,even to the point of opposing the war, many others -- a majority I would guess -- adopt the traditional position of a military family -- they support the mission that their family member is pursuing. That support may be blind, but its real nonetheless.

[Tellurian]

20. I don't know anyone who doesn't oppose it..

Start interviewing soldiers who've returned from Iraq. WRAH is full of soldiers, take a poll.

[texpatriot2004]

21. The Override is a matter of LAW nm