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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:01 PM
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Top Three Dems Solidly Trounce Top Rs in Match-Up
Democrats trump Republicans solidy in 2008 race: poll
AFP

With President George W. Bush's popularity hitting a record low, all three top Democratic candidates can beat the leading Republicans in the presidential race to replace him next year, according to a new poll Saturday.

Four days after Bush vetoed a Democrat Party-driven measure to set a timetable for withdrawing US troops from Iraq, the Newsweek poll said his popularity fell to an all-time low of 28 percent.

* snip *

The poll also showed that any of Democratic frontrunners Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards could solidly beat either Rudolph Giuliani or John McCain, the top Republican candidates, in the election in November 2008.

The poll of 1,000 adults, taken ahead of Thursday's debate between the eight Republican candidates for their party's 2008 nomination, showed Clinton beating Republican favorite Giuliani 49-46 percent; Obama beating Giuliani 50-43 percent; and Edwards beating the former New York City mayor 50-44 percent.

Senator Clinton, wife of former US president Bill Clinton, led Republican Senator McCain 50-44 percent, while Senator Obama beat McCain 52-39 percent and Edwards topped him 52-42 percent.

Similar matchups against the Republican former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney showed even greater spreads favoring the Democrats.

While Obama fared best in the matchups, the poll showed that Democrats solidly favored Clinton over Obama and Edwards as their party's nominee for the race, 52-38 percent and 63-32 percent, respectively.

Republicans preferred Giuliani over McCain as their party's nominee 59-48 percent, and Giuliani over Romney 70-20 percent, according to the poll.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Democrats_trump_Republicans_solidy__05052007.html
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:06 PM
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1. Well f'n happy days AK,
a thread that may not cause contention.:+

Great news!
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:10 PM
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3. ya think?
:toast:
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:58 PM
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7. I was just about to write something very similar!!
Edited on Sun May-06-07 10:00 PM by AZBlue
I'm sick to death of the candidate-bashing, the suspect polls that mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 18 months out, the negativity and the hate. This is what we MUST focus on, not the other bullshit. I haven't even posted much in GD: Politics lately because there hasn't been much to post to!

Thank you AK!!!!!
This is really good news and we need to keep this momentum going.

(OK, I'll get off my soap box now and go watch "SNL in the 90's")
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:05 PM
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9. w00t
I am itching for some GOP ass-kicking and don't care about the nasty ankle-biting about the candidates at DU. I care more that a Democrat wins the White House in 2008 than which particular Democrat wins.

I think it is absolutely brilliant that we have several strong contenders in the race.

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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:32 PM
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31. I'm right there with you!
We have several contenders that I will be happy to work my ass off for - just keep the R's away from the White House!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:09 PM
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2. It concerns me that Hillary underperforms Edwards and Obama in every gen. elec. poll
I have seen the last few days. Yikes. As our current primary frontrunner, I hope she can get those numbers up.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:38 PM
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4. the spread is still pretty decent
but the bigger the spread the better, eh?
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:54 PM
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6. Yep. Of the 3 Dem and 3 Rep "frontrunners"
it looks like Edwards and Giuliani are generally the strongest, Hillary and Romney the weakest. Though Romney is still relatively unknown, and I imagine is numbers will improve.

There was a recent poll that had Richardson handily beating Romney, which would be good sign for us since they are both equally unknown.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:06 PM
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10. She pushes the Republican base to vote the most and she polls the worst.
The Republicans want her as their opponent. Their fundraising will go through the roof. And unlike Edwards, her support will be gone after her first major gaffe.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:23 PM
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11. hmmmmmm
This OP must have been a conundrum for you ... who to trash????
Hillary or Obama .... hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

You do your candidate no service, mam, by trashing the others.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:07 PM
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32. It concerns me more that she's outperforming Obama and Edwards
The last thing we need is another rethug-lite president. We've had 27 years of conservative rule in this country and it's time to change.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 09:43 PM
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5. And they took the poll BEFORE the debate? Very nice!
I'm glad to see all the Dems doing well, but it will be six more months until these numbers REALLY start to matter. I'm particularly surprised by Obama's results because the media spotlight hasn't been on him lately.

I've been predicting that Reagan will have to rise from the dead because he's the closest thing the GOP has to a real front-runner. Suddenly, it doesn't seem so funny anymore!

:headbang:
rocknation
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:00 PM
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8. Interesting that the only one they seem to be holding up so high was pretty much
out of the loop with alzheimers for quite some time in his reign, my grandmother had it for over ten years before the desease took her away from us, he should never have been allowed to remain in office, bottom line is he was mentaly challenged and I don't make fun, it has happened to a few members in my family and it is nothing to joke about so in respect, he could not have done all they said he did in the right frame of mind, it is just impossible to believe knowing the desease as I do.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:37 PM
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13. DING DING DING! AuntPatsy, you're our grand prize winner!
...(Regan was) out of the loop with alzheimers for quite some time...(H)e should never have been allowed to remain in office, bottom line is he was mentaly challenged...

And if McCain keeps it up, people are going to start combining his age with his having been tortured and having serious doubts about HIS stability.

:headbang:
rocknation
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 10:24 PM
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12. I predict their candidate will be
Fred Thompson in a Reagan mask.
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 11:23 PM
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14. k and r
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Cobalt-60 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 11:47 PM
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15. Let the Chips fall, I don't care who our candidate is
I'll make a primary selection. Then I'll vote for whoever wins the nomination.
But after years of Republican tyrany I'd vote for my mother's dog before the best R they can scrape up - whoever it might be.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:40 AM
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19. I agree.
And I'd vote for my mother's dog's poo over any Republican.
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 11:48 PM
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16. The important thing here is that Bush fell to 28 percent AFTER
He vetoed the democrat's war-funding bill. If democrats don't see the connection then they need to be educated about it to shore up their backbones.

TlalocW
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:14 AM
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20. More reason to send him the same bill
I am praying Pelosi and Reid will rethink this compromise nonsense. This is plenty of reason to send him the same bill and dare him to do it again.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:41 AM
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22. "shore up their backbones"
Wait, the Democrats have BACKBONES? When did this happen?
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:57 AM
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23. Very true
Edited on Mon May-07-07 10:58 AM by mvd
Thanks for bringing that up. The Newsweek poll is very encouraging. I used to be worried about our prospects, but that Repuke debate made me feel MUCH better. If they can only run on Reagan, they are in trouble. I see the media is STILL trying to prop up McCain as a moderate. If he's a moderate, then I'm to the left of Marx!
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-06-07 11:57 PM
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17. we won't win if Hillary is the nominee.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:38 AM
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18. do tell


The report I posted seems to indicate all three top Dem contenders would kick ass, but if you've seen it in the tarot cards otherwise, we should inform the media immediately.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:59 AM
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24. we won't win if Obama is the nominee
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:21 AM
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26. So who would you be selecting?...
Hillary certainly shows worse here than Obama does. So are you an Edwards fan?

Personally, I would like to see what the numbers would be were Gore to get in the race. I bet he'd trounce the Rethugs even more!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:36 AM
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28. I would be replyin' to illinoisprogressive
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:17 AM
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25. We will win whoever the nominee is. (nt)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:38 AM
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21. Yep, Feb 5, 2008 is the REAL presidential election
Let's try to pick an actual Democrat this time, ok?

:hi: AK.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:29 AM
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27. Good news!
In my view, we have to get behind whomever wins the nomination and get out the vote BIG time. We'll have to inspire both old and new voters to go to the polls so that the election is not close enough to steal.

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:46 AM
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29. we've got some good candidates...the GOP has none
is anyone really worried that a republican might win the white house in '08?

not me...
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:58 AM
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30. We won the last two elections...
But look who's in the White House! Reps play by different rules ~ we'll have to stay on top of things and be willing to fight out discrepancies if we want to win.

Whatever happened to the paper trail bill??
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