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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:07 AM
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Newsweek Poll: Clinton has most political courage of Dem presidential contenders
Edited on Mon May-07-07 08:09 AM by wyldwolf
Among the Democratic contenders, Sen. Hillary Clinton receives the highest marks for having shown political courage in the past with 43%. John Edwards is at 33% and Barack Obama at 30%.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18505030/site/newsweek/page/2/

Let's not cherry pick which parts of this poll we believe and don't believe:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3251839&mesg_id=3251839
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3252530&mesg_id=3252530
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:10 AM
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1. POWERFUL ENDORSEMENT!!!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:11 AM
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2. Yet she still underperforms Edwards and Obama in most general election polls
I am all for not cherry picking.
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:51 AM
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3. You mean like, the political courage to come out against flag burning?
I mean, :wtf:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 08:54 AM
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4. ... you'll have to ask the respondents... I mean...
...at least she didn't back a constitutional amendment against flag burning like that great "progressive" Dennis Kucinich.
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:17 AM
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5. The political courage I would expect from any Democrat:
How about not putting a finger to the wind and voting for the Iraq War Resolution? Then when you do you claim you were fooled or misled.

How about having the political courage to stand up against everybody, including members of your own party, and being the ONLY vote against the Patriot Act? Thank you Senator Feingold for showing what political courage actually is all about.

I am undecided at this point, but I am not impressed with any candidate that cannot even muster 50% of those polled who believe the candidate has political courage.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:53 AM
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6. Sure a regular profile in courage
The correlation between that question and who you support may say what is going on. Frankly, I can not think of a signle time when she showed political courage.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:18 AM
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9. She took a giant leap of faith ....
.. with her crusade against violent video games ... I think she even considered defending SpongBob.
I suppose when you compare this to guys like "Maverick" McCain ALMOST stating that he believed in evolution, then Hillary is a real profile in courage but I think we can do better.
I think we need to. Not for the party ... for us.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:06 AM
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7. I think that result might be more a reflection of the misogyny
Edited on Mon May-07-07 10:10 AM by ripple
that still exists in our society, more than anything else.

'The little woman having the "courage" to run for president against all of those mean, powerful men' mentality.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:14 AM
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8. considering the amount of outright bile
and vituperation leveled against her throughout the duration of her public life, and given that she has come through it with her dignity intact, I will give her credit for having shown grace, toughness and courage; while that courage, however, is not of a political nature, it certainly dwarfs that of her two main competitors, of whom I would say Edwards has shown the least.

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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 10:48 AM
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10. I agree, dignity, grace, toughness and courage decribes her well. "I " would
also include, political courage.



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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:27 AM
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11. Her leadership in the leadup to the war against the Iraqi people made quite a
difference. it took guts to run against what many people in your own political party thought was a comfortable position of opposing the Bush vision. she helped sell it to the US senate. she has vision!

We have a nightmare.

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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:28 AM
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12. Would she have the "political courage" to openly support public campaign financing?
If not, she's a corporate financed chicken that's afraid to tackle the fundamental problem of our system now, which is the creeping fingers of the corporatocracy!

Of course the corporate media will structure these polls to avoid having that issue show up!
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:37 AM
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13. I beg to differ
Kucinich
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:50 PM
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14. Hmmmm, how surprising--
corporate media backing corporate candidate who has the courage to WHAT? Stand up against flag burning, vote us into an illegal war and disingenuously claim that her vote was honestly cast? Puh-leeze. If I can figure out the truth sitting in my living room, how was she so easily fooled? "There's an old saying here in . . . ."
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