Rasmussen Poll: Hillary 34%, Obama 26%

[Colobo]

As predicted by yours truly, the debate was going to bump Hillary's numbers:

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/

[rinsd]

1. Tip of the cap to Kaz!

Its one thing to post polls when your guy is winning, it takes alot of class to do so when he isn't.

:thumbsup:

[Colobo]

6. Thanks. I gotta be objective.

[rinsd]

13. And you deserve credit for it.

:toast:

[Adelante]

19. Well done

I thought Biden came in an edge ahead, but Hillary did really well in the debate.

[TwilightGardener]

2. That's quite the bump for her! Hopefully, this will spur Obama

into sharpening his game even more--a good well-fought primary will only strengthen the both of them.

[jobycom]

3. That's a heck of a swing. Since you predicted it, why do you think it happened?

I didn't see the debate, but there was so much speculation that it was a draw that I'm surprised by these numbers. Did Obama look weak? Is it just that people finally saw him, and that destroyed some of the mystique for those who were assuming he was what they wanted him to be instead of what he was? Did Clinton look better? Seems like Obama's numbers fell, rather than Clinton's going up.

[wyldwolf]

4. Clinton had a net gain of 8 points. She gained 4, Obama dropped 4

Debate performance helped.

The majority of it, IMO, is the previous Rasmussen was wrong and Clinton never really lost the lead.

[jobycom]

11. Obama fell six, Clinton climbed four. That's ten.

Last week, Obama led, 32 to 30. http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/2008_democratic_presidential_primary_obama_32_clinton_30

This week he trails, 26 to 34. He lead by two, now he trails by eight. He dropped 6, Clinton climbed by four. Both those add to ten.

[wyldwolf]

14. yeah, sorry. Misread the numbers. But I still contend the previous rasmussen poll was off.

[Colobo]

15. Not necessarily

Obama had a nice momentum going for him before the debates.

[Colobo]

5. The expectations were too high for him

He looked normal, even a bit nervous at first. Hillary looked in control of the situation. Nothing spectacular, but comfortable.

[rinsd]

10. They were fairly high.

He has become known as an excellent public speaker and I don't think the debate format showed off that quality.

[rinsd]

7. Debate impressions

Obama started off a bit nervously but found his groove after the beginning (his exchange with Kucincih was very well done). People attacked his Nat Sec answer but I thought it was fine.

Clinton did well, she showed some fire towards the end. No one has really mentioned it but she came close to tears when speaking about VaTech as she related her experience visiting Columbine. Maybe that isn't the reaction that people are looking for from a woman candidate(she acted fairly touhg otherwise) but it touched me.

Biden stole the show through a combination of magnamity and wit.

[Colobo]

8. If anything, it has to be noticed that

Edwards is still in the same place... the guy was not able to gain momentum and didn't manage to lose support because of the debate...

That makes me think that it is very probable that, outside of his core supporters, he's not generating much interest.

[saracat]

12. Hmmm. It could also be argued that his position is solid and not hampered by the Debate.

I think it is possible that with the publicity he is generating with his rapid response, and TV ads, paired with a great Debate perforamnce in upcoming Debates, he could split Obama and Clinton.

[Colobo]

Dupe!

[Colobo]

9. Dupe!

[PresidentObama]

16. Edwards is at the comfortable third place.

Where he needs to stay...

For now ;)

Good to see Hillary got the bump she deserved from holding her ground as the frontrunner in the debates. Kudos to the Hillary camp for the strong post-debate numbers! Giving credit where credit is due, instead of knocking her down--like some here!!

[Colobo]

17. Are you sure you want him to stay there?

[PresidentObama]

27. Wearing our glasses, are we? I said for now.

Let the two frontrunners knock each other off the mountain. Edwards isn't winning the money or poll primary, but he may very well win the people primary. He's doing very strongly in Iowa.

[elizm]

18. Yes BUT...

These are the numbers that continue to be the problem. Giuliani beats Clinton, McCain ties Clinton, Obama beats Giuliani by 9 points, Obama beats McCain by 11 Points. THESE are the numbers that matter. Hillary winning the primaries means NOTHING if she can't win in the general, other than the Democrats insist on nominating another losing candidate. How is Hillary's bump in the primary poll something to crow about? I want to WIN this one darn it!!!!!!!!!!

Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 McCain (R) 45%, Clinton (D) 45%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Giuliani (R) 47%, Clinton (D) 43%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Obama (D) 48%, McCain (R) 37%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Obama (D) 48%, Giuliani (R) 39%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Edwards (D) 48%, McCain (R) 37%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Edwards (D) 47%, Giuliani (R) 41%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Clinton (D) 50%, Romney (R) 35%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Obama (D) 54%, Romney (R) 25%
Pres '08 Hotline/Diageo May 7 Edwards (D) 52%, Romney (R) 26%

[Grandrose]

20. You nailed it....

I absolutely agree with your analysis and I want to WIN too!!:applause:

[rinsd]

21. LOL...a Beer company poll!

http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

And it was taken before the debates so its relevancy to this thread is just about ZERO.

[elizm]

22. Your very same poll has Guiliani and Hillary only tied...

...so the POINT is still very much relevant....Hillary can't win in the general, so why do you want to nominate her???? Also from your very same poll...

Clinton has been a primary figure on the national political scene for 15 years. Everybody has an opinion about her and the opinions haven’t been fluctuating much. Currently, 50% view the former First Lady favorably and 49% have an unfavorable view.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008_clinton_ties_giuliani_45_to_45

[rinsd]

23. She can't win the general?

She's now tied with Giuliani with the trend on her side and she beats everyone else from the GOP.

But yeah she has no shot in hell :eyes:

[elizm]

26. Sorry...in the general the 'trend' is not on her side...

Obama and Edwards outpoll her in every match up....with polls released SINCE the debates, by the way.

[elizm]

29. Trend on Hillary's side?

You know, if nominating the least electable candidate out of the front-runners makes sense to you, then by ALL means, please go ahead and vote for Hillary. I'm a bit more comfortable with a candidate who has better than a 3 percent advantage on the leading Republican candidate.

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_newsweek_national_survey_3.php

General election match-ups among registered voters are as follows:

Giuliani 46%, Clinton 49%
Giuliani 43%, Obama 50%
Giuliani 44%, Edwards 50%

McCain 44%, Clinton 50%
McCain 39%, Obama 52%
McCain 42%, Edwards 52%

Romney 35%, Clinton 57%
Romney 29%, Obama 58%
Romney 27%, Edwards 64%

[rinsd]

32. Yes, trending towards Hillary. Thank you for even more evidence.

And along with Hillary's rise, you have Giuliani's fall.

"I'm a bit more comfortable with a candidate who has better than a 3 percent advantage on the leading Republican candidate."

So why don't you like Edwards then if that's your criteria? He (up until recently) had been the one kicking ass in head to head matchups.

[elizm]

33. I DID support Edwards...

...right up until the day Obama got in and I saw him as the better candidate. I don't see where that has any bearing on this conversation, however, other than maybe you're trying to drag in Edward's supporters to help boost your feeble arguments. I'm done here...you're hopeless. As I said, vote for Hillary, by all means.

[rinsd]

35. Feeble arguments?

From someone who posted a beer company poll?

From someone whose argument is that Hillary can't win even though she is beating all comers, Democrat and Republican?

"I'm done here...you're hopeless"

Don't worry I won't hold your attitude against Obama.

"As I said, vote for Hillary, by all means."

I certainly plan to in BOTH elections.

[elizm]

25. Poll...Hillary supporters think Global Warming is 'made up'..

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0507/Fun_with_polls.html#comments

May 07, 2007

Fun with polls

Deep in the cross-tabs of this SurveyUSA New Hampshire poll, we learn that Hillary is far and away the preferred candidate of people who think global warming is "made-up."

They are, in fact, her strongest subgroup.

I suspect this has something to do with age and education. (And, still, she's winning.)


posted by Ben Smith 05:15 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0507/Fun_with_polls.html#comments

[rinsd]

30. LOL.

Hillary dominates every facet of that poll and that's all you got?

[ElizabethDC]

31. Glogal warming? That is made up! n/t

[rinsd]

34. LOL!

:hi:

[zulchzulu]

38. What's a glogal? How do you warm it?

I seem to remember glogals as some kind of Zoroastrian ceremonial biscuit made from the toejam of Tibetan llamas...

[AtomicKitten]

24. I do so love a horse race.

:thumbsup:

[PresidentObama]

28. Me too. The "anything goes" aspect insures we nominate the best candidate.

May the best man (or woman) win!!

[zulchzulu]

36. Only 8 months, 8 days until Iowa caucus...

Polls at this point are like Twinkies...

[cosmik debris]

37. 66% don't prefer Hillary.

I followed the link and discovered that those same pollsters have Bush at 37% approval. Only 43% believe Gonzales should resign. 49% believe that a timetable will make our troops less safe.

In other words, this is a bogus polling organization. Their poll is obviously slanted to make their point.