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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:29 AM Original message |
Is marital infidelity with younger subordinates a symptom of |
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returnable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Leave the beltway out of it. |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:34 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. How many fifty plus year old men do you know |
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seventhson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. I worked in Congress |
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mrgorth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. One could say that the young women |
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pezcore64 (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 02:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
78. lol |
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Snivi Yllom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
76. the problem is not the beltway |
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eileen_d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
2. It's a symptom of men who are in positions of power. |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Absolutely! |
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eileen_d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "knowledge of this affair was... widespread" |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #8 |
23. Interesting use of ellipses |
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eileen_d (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
34. I believe you are splitting hairs |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:56 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. it's also a symptom of those attracted to "power and wealth" |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. it happens outside the beltway as well |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:35 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. But, generally, when itis discovered in those contexts |
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maddezmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:40 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. ya think |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. me too |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
6. the patriarchy,baby... |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:37 AM Original message |
Change the culture? As in - defend the sanctity of marriage? |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
9. Interns and congress |
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slappypan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
10. And what about these young women? |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
11. These aren't rapes. Power is an aphrodesiac |
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ewagner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:55 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Well said |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. None of the gentlemen you name -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. I'm not making a moral judgment on their sexual actvity. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:51 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I hear your point, but I'm suggesting that -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:57 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I agree; I am not inetersted in the dynamic that |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. guys without money and power do it also |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. No it isn't. Your inside-the-beltway-all-is-wicked theory -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:19 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I know that it happens everywhere. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Do you not acknowledge that men and women who -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Well. I lisetd several prominent cases, and then admitted |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #44 |
53. Perhaps it would be more effective if -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. True, I can't argue with the notion that judgmentalism |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:08 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Tell me from which planet you will recruit "new -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. It's not sex that we need to get rid of; it's the sense of |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. The U.S. Press asked Nobel Prize Lauriat Gabriel -- |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I agree with Marquez....the difference is that Clinton was already |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
14. certainly--there is no honor among them |
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WiseMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
18. MoveOn, MoveOn, MoveOn, MoveOn: Stop Recycling the Baseless Slime!! |
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CWebster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Move on, let's just get past this... |
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ShimokitaJer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:58 AM Response to Reply #18 |
26. Don't look at the man behind the curtain!!!! |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Who let the Wisebot loose? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:02 AM Response to Reply #18 |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:32 AM Response to Reply #18 |
43. "Stop crying in your teacups!" N/T |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
81. no what he said was |
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JasonBerry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
25. Bravo! |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. some WANT to have sex with them |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:47 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. it has to do with years of defending Clinton I think |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
27. Slander-mongers |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:05 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Truth is the absolute defense to slander. |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
30. ## Support Democratic Underground! ## |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 04:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
85. Cover your ears, dearie |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
37. The terms themselves create the problem. |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. It's not about sex, it's about sexual harassment. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. I don't believe either... |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:51 AM Response to Reply #37 |
57. sorry, but it just plain sleazy when you cheat on your wife with a girl |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. "Cheat" |
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DemNoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
39. I don't know |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:36 AM Response to Reply #39 |
45. LOL, touche... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
41. It's been studied. It's a power thing.. for both sides. N/T |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
42. I don't know where you live |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
46. "innocent" questions ... actually an underhanded effort to spread rumor? |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. we need to google to find out what people's opinions are about affairs? |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Proper for the Primary 2004 Discussion? Moderator needs to decide this. |
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Mairead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
47. No, it's a symbol of wealthy-middle-aged-males' sense of entitlement |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
48. there has always been that sense of entitlement amoung powerful men |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:45 AM Response to Reply #48 |
52. I googled "Is Bob Packwood a slime-ball" |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. LOL, I guess you really can google opinions |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
50. Strange as this may sound, |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:46 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. So people should be allowed to go about imposing their sexual |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:53 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Do you really think that sexual affairs are limited to the "beltway" lol? |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Again, it's not about sex, it's about sexual harassment. |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. And I'll say it AGAIN, if those young people file sexual harassment suits |
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Northwind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
51. In Kerry's case, there is also the emasculation issue to consider |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
68. Sex with subordinates is despicable |
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MoonRiver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 12:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Assuming for a second that the rumor is correct, |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:22 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Why not just ban it altogether? |
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bhunt70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
73. we shouldnt always assume sex in the workplace is sexual harassment... |
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Colin Ex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
74. Did people stop having sex or something? |
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Rich Hunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
84. seriously |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 04:05 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. It isn't about sex. People want to say anyone who questions |
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Carolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
77. NO but |
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Jen72 (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
79. Men in power have been having affairs from the beginning of time. |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. I'm sorry, but the "boys will be boys" defense is not good |
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dawn (876 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
82. It happens everywhere, and the girls are willing participants. |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 03:56 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What is your opinion of the character of the men who did that? |
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Shanty Oilish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. Ah, a cynical/realist/mature thread! |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-13-04 04:17 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Sorry, but those ARE NOT the ordinary rules of conduct for me. |
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