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Sun May-13-07 07:18 PM
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Wonder why our candidates have trouble |
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Just look at 60 Minutes. Compare and mostly contrast the profiles of Edwards and Romney. The most illustrative contrast was the questions about their wives. Mrs. Romney has MS and is apparently in remission. In contrast to the Couric constuction of some people say which was used to bring in right wing criticism of Edwards we had a glowing acceptance of Romney's priorities. The whole interview was one gigantic lovefest to show us how lovely his family is. No wonder it literaly took Bush ruining the nation to bring his approval down from 90 percent to 30 percent.
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Sun May-13-07 07:20 PM
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1. this nation is a nation of imbeciles. |
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This isn't surprising in the least.
I watched 5 minutes of CNN today in the line for Dunkin' Donuts, and by god, I felt like I lost brain cells just from watching it x(
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Sun May-13-07 07:27 PM
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2. It depends on who is interviewing, I think. Couric would have done bad with any of them |
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Edited on Sun May-13-07 07:29 PM by illinoisprogressive
I did not see the Edwards interview but, heard about it. But, Couric just is not good. It is like today. I heard about how hard Stephanopous was on Edwards but, he did a soft interview on Obama. And I'm an Obama supporter....
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Sun May-13-07 07:42 PM
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4. It's simple--Edwards is easier to pick apart than Obama. Timmeh |
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Russert was pretty tough on McCain today, as well--those that show weaknesses will have those weak spots attacked by the press. I'm sorry that 60 Minutes didn't rip into the Mittster--he's got a TON of weak spots.
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Sun May-13-07 11:43 PM
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11. Newsmax is pushing "Hillary vs. Obama" everywhere in their ads. |
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Edited on Sun May-13-07 11:45 PM by w4rma
Think about why Rev. Moon wants the Democratic race to be between those two and why no mention of Edwards.
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Mon May-14-07 12:58 AM
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15. Probably because they are "Playing" us. They don't mention Edwards |
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so that you'll think it was your very own idea.
They are not as stupid as to make their plans for our future as evident as all that.
In the end, you will have been Hosed, again.
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Mon May-14-07 06:18 AM
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16. That's warped logic. All the evidence points to your stated logic being way wrong. (nt) |
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Edited on Mon May-14-07 06:22 AM by w4rma
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Mon May-14-07 08:05 AM
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18. He's beginning to scare me |
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There have been many Romney ads lately. They are the soft focus and are showing him as strong. I just saw one where he spoke of how he will veto too big spending bills - mentioning that he has vetoed "bad" bills. (Didn't mention how the vetoes were routinely overturned)
Consider that he has less obvious negatives than the self admitted drunk until he was 40 year old who won in 2000. I didn't see the 60 minutes show - but it sounds like they are being very easy on him.
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Mon May-14-07 03:03 PM
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22. Warped logic? Like you mean when the media was heralding |
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Howard Dean as "inevitable" prior to them deep sixing him?
No, it is not warped logic to understand that what may seem obvious (that Hillary and Obama are getting much of the press) does not mean that the end result wanted by the power that be is a Hillary or Obama candidacy. In fact, this early on, it is actually beneficial to Edwards not to be in the center of the story.
So, my point is that things are rarely as they appear. It may sound warped to you, but it actually is true and tried, and your PooPooing my logic as warped does not make it so.
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Mon May-14-07 10:48 PM
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23. Media Matters exposes MSM coverage of Edwards |
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Edited on Mon May-14-07 10:48 PM by w4rma
Several news reports this week about Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards illustrate the flawed ways in which media too often treat the champions of progressive economic policies; among them:
Media often give short shrift to the actual substance of progressive proposals, focusing instead on their cost.
Media portray wealthy candidates who advocate progressive economic proposals as out-of-touch hypocrites. Bizarrely, wealthy candidates who advocate conservative economic policies that would actually enrich themselves often escape similar scrutiny of their personal finances.
The examples below focus on media coverage of Edwards, though it would be a mistake to assume these kinds of flawed reporting are in any way unique to him. http://mediamatters.org/items/200705120002http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/14/95935/2808http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3263438
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Sun May-13-07 09:56 PM
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Is a piece of crap turncoat. The next time watch the ending of his show to see his main sponsor. Does oil and gas institute ring a bell?
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Mon May-14-07 08:25 AM
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21. On the Stephanopolis show, the Edwards question was harder, but |
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Obama handled his negative question better - he very skillfully shifted it to "appearnace of cooruption", while emphasizing his credentials both in the IL Senate and US Senate as a reformer. (He was known in Springfield as not letting lobbyists buy him lunch.") He likely suspected that question was coming as it was the only real "scandal".
Edwards did not handle the list of bills he apologized for that well. It's true it was harder because essentilally 5 charges were thrown in one question - the 4 listed in the chart plus a global charge that his record doesn't match where he is now, so he apologizes a lot.
Like the Obama charge, Edwards should have known that the descrepnacies between his Senate career, 2004 race and his current positions would come up. I am surprised that he didn't have a prepared answer - maybe describing his growing recognition of the plight of the less advantaged - possibly because of the contacts made in 2004.
So - while I think Obama had it easier, I also think he (or his people) were better prepared. He was very smooth on all the questions.
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Sun May-13-07 07:40 PM
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3. 5 strapping sons and not one of them in a uniform... |
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"Well I did missionary work" "Well, I hope to find a way to serve that's just as much of a sacrifice"
Yeah asshole, and I hope to win a million dollars and buy a new Mercedes.
"Are you really called matinee MITT"?
Give me a freaking break. I wanted to puke.
"I can't wait until I get my hands on Washington" he says.
Bullshit, you smarmy rich prick...I have a better chance of being the next President.
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Sun May-13-07 07:44 PM
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5. "I can't wait until I get my hands on Washington"-- |
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urrrgh--please, please, let this man nowhere near the reins of power.
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Sun May-13-07 07:46 PM
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6. He could not hide his greed. "can't wait to get my hands on Washington" |
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Edited on Sun May-13-07 07:58 PM by Moochy
I know that they are trying to play that line the other way.. But I heard him say that and all I could think of was that he wanted to choke Washington. :evilgrin:
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Sun May-13-07 09:03 PM
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7. Those "other ways to serve" don't involve getting maimed or killed now do they? |
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Sun May-13-07 10:20 PM
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9. The media cartel in this country needs to be broken up with a sledgehammer. |
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I can't even watch "news" programs anymore. :puke:
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Sun May-13-07 10:43 PM
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10. MSM Interviewers knock themselves out "picking apart" |
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Democrats. Pure and Simple they have this fear of Republicans calling them "Librul".
Likewise they will be more fair with Republicans trying to prove they are not Librul. Trying to get a tummy rub.
I am describing Journalists who do have Liberal Leanings. Most Journalist have much more in common with Republicans than Democrats.
They would have much more crediblity if they just did an interview which focused on those issues which a candidate espouses . gotcha questions are not even cute. Often the people watching get angrier with the Journalist than the person being interviewed.
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Sun May-13-07 11:49 PM
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12. I think the notion that 60 Minutes |
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is a conservative show is nonsense.
Katie Couric's interview was fine, IMO. She wasn't accusing - she was asking questions that most Americans wanted answered - including me.
People make the mistake of thinking that if an interviewer asks a tough question, or even one that is a talking point of the other side, that they agree with that side. That is a mistake.
Elizabeth Edwards' cancer was breaking news, and warranted the questions that were asked.
It's insane to say that Couric believes Edwards should quit the campaign to stay with his wife because of the questions she asked.
Again, 60 Minutes, which has spent decades attacking the rich, the powerful, and the major corporations, is not a conservative show.
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Mon May-14-07 12:00 AM
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14. That's not an intelligible response |
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She properly used that term. Some DID say those things, and even some people right here on DU.
How is phrasing a question that way a priori evidence of right-wing bias?
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Mon May-14-07 06:20 AM
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17. Interesting. I'd expect that kind of dismissal about big media from a Republican, but not here. (nt) |
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Mon May-14-07 08:14 AM
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a Republican would say the media have an obvious liberal bent.
Despite your silly attempt to imply that anyone who disagrees that 60 Minutes is a conservative show must be a conservative, I will manage to struggle through the day.
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Mon May-14-07 10:49 PM
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24. Media Matters exposes MSM coverage of Edwards |
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Several news reports this week about Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards illustrate the flawed ways in which media too often treat the champions of progressive economic policies; among them:
Media often give short shrift to the actual substance of progressive proposals, focusing instead on their cost.
Media portray wealthy candidates who advocate progressive economic proposals as out-of-touch hypocrites. Bizarrely, wealthy candidates who advocate conservative economic policies that would actually enrich themselves often escape similar scrutiny of their personal finances.
The examples below focus on media coverage of Edwards, though it would be a mistake to assume these kinds of flawed reporting are in any way unique to him. http://mediamatters.org/items/200705120002http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/14/95935/2808http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3263438
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Tue May-15-07 01:08 AM
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26. media coverage of ALL candidates |
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is unfair, to those who support those candidates.
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Mon May-14-07 11:09 PM
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25. And a Democrat could formulate an answer to his question. |
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Mon May-14-07 08:10 AM
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19. I agree - also the Edwards show was over all very sympathetic |
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60 minutes is one of the best remaining programs on TV.
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