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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:27 AM Original message |
"I've seen him walk into a room, and the opposition candidate will literally start mumbling," |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. "the boiler-room attack mentality of the Hillary crowd. The strategy there is rip your lungs out." |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I don't think it would have worked in 2004 |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:04 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Good response, thanks - but I think '04 needed more 'fight back' from Kerry/Edwards |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
19. They fought back appropriately and WON - that's why BushInc had to steal it. |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. He may have eked out a win |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Bush was the most PROTECTED president this country ever had. Protected by |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. All the more reason to get down and dirty, early and often. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Really? You mean I just imagined that he challenged Bush to debate their service |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Proves my point. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Look what the press did to Rather. You want to believe they would ALLOW a Dem |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Rather did it to his own damn, dumb self, with considerable help |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
77. Your very first line is contradictory |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. It is? Are you saying a man can't hang himself if another man hands |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yup..it is. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. Okay, it was a team effort. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #80 |
85. LOL |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:01 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. He is the worst President, but at least half the country |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. I think Kerry made a huge mistake by overplaying his military cred. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #40 |
54. There was nothing murky in Kerry's past. It's all in your imagination. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. For Christ's sake. THE past is murky, I said-- |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Tee Hee. You're still peddling the line that he lost! That says it all. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Kerry won? Why the fuck are we still at war? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #89 |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #56 |
83. Katrina happened, which demonstrated the Republicans |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:27 PM Response to Reply #40 |
72. That is mostly RW justification |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
81. It's the symbolism. Nobody listens to--or remembers--the speeches. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. He didn't say "Lieutenant Kerry" |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. The usual Kerry-bot talking points. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. You continue to conflate the vote with going to war |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Dean was much better positioned to argue against the war |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-15-07 10:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
91. I doubt Dean would have won |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
42. Why are you reveling in the idea that our last Democratic candidate was slimed |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #19 |
65. BLackwell had already done his dirty work |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. I agree - but not from Kerry |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Immunity is Easy - Just Do the Right Thing |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:05 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Doing the right thing doesn't count if the public is manipulated into believing lies. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. It was pathetic and sick - but much of the media followed |
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Czolgosz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
68. You don't have to remember all the way back to last fall to recall "thuggish attacks" - just check |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. Why didn't this attack team oppose Bush and the GOP from 2001 thru 2006 |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. If John Kerry had only fought back in 2004... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
53. if only |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
37. You're missing something very important -- |
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windy252 (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
49. Hmm. |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
2. Worth its weight in gold |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:36 AM Response to Original message |
3. The Rest Of The Candidates Have A Fella Named 'Carl Bernstein' |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. ... only the rightwing will buy his regurgitated rumors. |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Have You Read His Book? n/t |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. No, just the tantilizing teasers (regurgitated same old same old) he's released |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. Our Karl Rove |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:26 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Let's ask... |
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PDittie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:10 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. We can also ask Hillary |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Even before that - remember the "Clintons trashed the WH' lie that was never countered? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. No "attack dogs" have emerged now. One has been hired. Imagine if Kerry had hired one. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. No Dem ever hired them from 2001 thru 2006 to oppose Bush policies like Alito? |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:12 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. No Dem (Kerry) ever hired them in 2004 to oppose the swift boat attacks? |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Twice In One Thread, Ma'am, Seems A Tad Excessive |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Oh, you know me, dear Magistrate - I've never been one looking for applause, just honesty. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Never Under-rate, Ma'am, the Value Of Amusing the Audience.... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. The view was never pre-conceived. It developed AFTER the evidence mounted. |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. well, my mind has been changed based on her posts... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Kerry's attack dog was a Garden Club member, if I recall: |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I think she doesn't get the credit she deserved - maybe because she is a woman |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. If the campaign was so bad, why did BushInc have to steal it to remain in office? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. Watch the dvd "So Goes the Nation".. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. It is conventional, that history is rewritten |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
69. I've got a video YOU might be interested in... |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
12. cool... we have the anti-rove weapon! |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Yep, if you haven't been in a war and know what it takes to best your opponent.. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Obvious question: Why didn't he oppose Rove/Bush from 2001 thru 2006? |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Maybe he was spending his time blaming other Democrats for Republican-caused problems? |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yawn |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #16 |
17. say, isn't that what people were doing during Obama's speech last week? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. yep, I've noticed he draws the crowd.. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. SNAP! |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
33. Do not need him.... |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. For the reason you give, I don't believe you are "a uncommitted Democrat" |
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Grandrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
66. You just proved my point! |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
70. LOL - pointing out anyone's lack of "facts and positions" gets called sliming - esp if Obama 's |
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Diane R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. This is very depressing. Replace bush and Rove with Hillary and another Rove? I hope not. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
44. He Sounds Like A First Rate Fellow, Mr. Wolf |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
57. Good, we need a tough street fighter, |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. ditto |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
64. Wow... so does this dude have the "opposition research" on Senator Clinton? |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. only pathetic to those who are foolish enough to bring a knife to a gunfight! |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Uh, she hired this prick |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. the other dems |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
73. Ah |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-14-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
74. well where was this smith guy when arnuldddd took governorship from a duly elected dem governor?? |
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