New Yorkers give nod to Bloomberg in match up with Giuliani

[DeepModem Mom]

CNN: Monday, May 14, 2007
New Yorkers give nod to Bloomberg in match up with Giuliani


A new poll shows New Yorkers favor their current mayor Michael Bloomberg over Rudy Giuliani.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has said he has no plans to run for president in 2008, but New Yorkers overwhelmingly believe he would make a better president than his predecessor, GOP presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani.

According to a New York Daily News poll released Monday, 46 percent of New Yorkers chose Bloomberg while only 29 percent chose Giuliani in a head-to-head matchup of the two mayors.

Moreover, the poll also indicates New Yorkers believe Bloomberg to be a better mayor than Giuliani. Asked who was a more effective mayor, 56 percent said Bloomberg while 29 percent picked Giuliani. 10 percent ranked them about the same and 5 percent said they didn't know.

The poll, conducted for the Daily News by Blum & Weprin Associates, surveyed 503 registered voters and carries a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percentage points.

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/05/new-yorkers-give-nod-to-bloomberg-in.html

[aquart]

1. Like I said, Giuliani can't deliver New York.

[IndianaGreen]

2. Yesterday Chuck Hagel hinted that Bloomberg was going to run

and Joe Lieberman has been making noises about Bloomberg, a man that financially backed Lieberman's run against Lamont.

[Pab Sungenis]

3. I'm projecting a Bloomberg/Lieberman ticket in '08

thinking they can draw enough liberal Republicans and conservative Democrats to win as a third party. It might make inroads and throw it to the House.

[IndianaGreen]

7. Can't have two Jews on the same ticket!

Bloomberg will have to reach out to a big name personality to run with him. It's all showbiz!

[Cha]

11. Bloomberg is too schmart for

for that..lieman would only drag the bugger down.

[Alexander]

24. Few trust Lieberman now like they used to.

Even in Connecticut, many Lieberman voters admitted they didn't like his pandering, stance on the war and lack of principles - but because he saved their job or their friend's job down in Groton, he was getting their votes.

Since even Congressional Republicans are saying they'll change course if things don't improve by September, I think the pro-war position is becoming a terribly unpopular one to take. Lieberman is now to the right of many Republicans on the war issue, including Hagel.

Pretty much anyone Bloomberg could select would draw heavy fire from one side or the other or both - another reason why I'm not freaking out about the possibility of him running.

Plus, what foreign policy experience does Bloomberg have? Aren't voters going to want that, given the recent snafu in Iraq?

[AtomicKitten]

4. Look for a Hagel/Bloomberg independent run.

n/t

[Adelante]

6. That's it n/t

[democrat2thecore]

8. Other way around

Bloomberg's the guy with the money and the executive experience. Remember, some call him the greatest Mayor in NYC since Fiorello LaGuardia. Chuck Hagel has no such experience or accolades. It's Hagel who is VEEP material. Plus, whose money would they be spending? End of story.

[AtomicKitten]

12. wait ....

I would have to give more than a cursory crap about GOP politics to be interested enough to further discuss a hypothetical Hail Mary pass by the wingnuts ... but alas I do not.

End of story. :silly:

[democrat2thecore]

14. Bloomberg is hardly a wingnut

And your response, after posting your own theory, was not very kind. Discuss, but only on your terms? That's not a very interesting discussion. YOU brought up Hagel at the top of the ticket - not me.

[AtomicKitten]

15. lighten up

My post was meant to be funny, not confrontational. I guess I just don't
take GOP politics very seriously at this point other than pointing and laughing.

Peace.

On edit: Just FYI I do realize Bloomberg is considered a Libertarian by some but he was elected and is currently serving as a Republican mayor and for all intents and purposes is a Republican.

[democrat2thecore]

17. Fair enough. I DO need to lighten up. Today's been a killer. -nt-

[AtomicKitten]

18. cheers and welcome to DU

[TwilightGardener]

16. Hagel has no executive experience? What do you think he did

before he entered the Senate? He was a CEO. He also built a cell-phone company with some partners from the ground up--that's where he got rich. He was also a deputy admininistrator for the VA, among other high-level jobs. And he has military and foreign policy experience. I see them as coming out equal in the "experience" war. But, it's hard to see Bloomberg footing the bill to play second fiddle--hell, I wouldn't!

[democrat2thecore]

19. Good points, all.

I obviously was thinking in political terms, but you are right - it's not like the other experience doesn't count.

[AtomicKitten]

20. he was conveniently Chairman of the precursor of ES&S voting machines

Hagel was and is a current shareholder in McCarthy Group Inc. of Omaha, whose portfolio includes Election Systems and Software Inc. Before his 1996 election to the Senate, Hagel was president of McCarthy and Co. (Lincoln Journal Star, 5/9/05)

As late as 1995, Hagel was the chairman of a Nebraska electronic voting machine maker, American Information Systems, which was renamed Election Systems and Software in 1997. It was reported that Hagel failed to mention his financial ties to ES&S on his Senate disclosure form, an omission that drew interest from the Senate Ethics Committee. (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/28/03)

Hagel�s 1996 run for the Senate left him with not one, but two underdog victories, defeating Don Stenberg in the primary and Democratic Gov. Ben Nelson. Both of his opponents had solid, consistent leads in the polls up until Election Day. (University Wire, 7/14/05) That year, Hagel became the first Republican in 24 years to win a Senate seat in Nebraska, winning easily and even carrying black districts that never had voted Republican. (Sarasota Herald-Tribune, 9/28/03) Of note, the company�s machines counted 85 percent of the votes in the Nebraska election. (Morning Call, 9/22/04)

ES&S claims to have counted 56% of the vote in the last four presidential elections. Bob and Todd Urosevich founded its predecessor, AIS, in the 1980's. Bob is now president of Diebold-Global, while brother Todd is a vice president at ES&S. Business Records Corp., which was merged with AIS to become ES&S, was partially owned by Cronus, a company that seems to have a lot of connections to the infamous Hunt brothers from Texas, as well as other individuals and entities, including Rothschild, Inc. Right wing Republicans Howard Ahmanson (who financed AIS) and Nelson Bunker Hunt have both heavily contributed to The Chalcedon Institute, an organization that mandates Christian "dominion" over the world. (PR Newswire, 10/30/02)

http://www.senatemajority.com/chuck_hagels_voting_machines

[TwilightGardener]

21. Yup, I'm familiar with that! Read all the "black box voting/commondreams" stuff.

[AtomicKitten]

22. when there's no sunlight -- there is suspicion

You seem skeptical, but I hope you at least agree the fact that the source code is proprietary and thus not verifiable combined with let's just say interesting magical number shifts that have occurred as far back as 2000 render this mode of voting unacceptable.

[TwilightGardener]

23. I've probably argued this about twenty times on DU, because I am

a constituent of ol' Chuckie's and would like to think he is in office for honest reasons--I just have never seen proof of wrongdoing (aside from non-disclosure). Without evidence of that, I assume innocence. If he was Delay, or Santorum, or Stevens, or almost anyone else in the R party, I might have more suspicion, but even then I would suspend judgment if no proof of "rigging" was ever presented, just because I believe it would be a very serious crime and would warrant a thorough investigation. Hagel does not have a history of corruption or dishonesty, that I know of, so I give benefit of the doubt to him, although it is an eyebrow-raiser. And paper ballots are the way to go.

[Alexander]

25. I disagree. Hagel will run as a Republican.

I think he may have been considering leaving the party, but certain hints - like the 10 Republican congressman talking about a September deadline and the lack of a strong anti-war Republican in the field right now - lead me to be almost certain that Hagel will stick with the party.

He's far right on nearly every issue except the war. And there are many Republicans who are not only "anti-war" but more isolationist in principle.

The war's popularity decreases every day and is now eating into the 29% "base" - only about 2/3 of Republicans supported the war in the latest poll. If even 20% of Iowa or New Hampshire Republicans are opposed to the war (and I'm convinced they will be by January), Hagel's got a good chance of winning.

[AtomicKitten]

27. heard it on the tee-vee so it must be right ;)

You are spot-on that Hagel is far-fascist right with the exception of the war, but no worries because Bloomberg fills in those pesky holes with his libertarian streak and his giant piles of money.

[BoneDaddy]

5. Bloomberg is a class act

and one of the few republicans I have a modicum of respect for.

[democrat2thecore]

9. Because he's a RINO

Bloomberg's a good guy. BUT, we need a DEMOCRATIC administration in January of 2009. Bloomberg would bring us a "unity administration"; you can count on that. He's a threat though. Really.

[BoneDaddy]

26. True

He is a RINO and used to be a Dem.

[Cha]

10. Good~ Looks like the

ghoul has lost his 9/11 glow.

[AtomicKitten]

13. maybe this will help his image

[Honeycombe8]

28. Well, THAT'S a losing ticket, if I've ever seen one. Two New Yorkers?

I'm sure New Yorkers would love it...but the rest of the country won't vote for TWO New Yorkers.

In other words, I give that ticket my blessing.