"Schwarzenegger Falling Out With GOP"

[SaveElmer]

"While Republican presidential candidates woo California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger for his endorsement, the former movie star's relationship with the state GOP has all but disappeared," reports Robert Novak.

"Prominent California Republicans generally do not want to criticize publicly the party's only statewide office holder, but privately they say Schwarzenegger has been governing as a Democrat since his re-election on a liberal platform last year. The complaint among Republicans is that the governor follows the lead of his Democratic wife, Maria Shriver."

Rumor: There has been speculation that Schwarzenegger might run for mayor of Los Angeles when his term is up in 2009.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2007/05/14/schwarzenegger_falling_out_with_gop.html

Not sure what I think of this...I've never really been able to bring myself to truly dislike Arnold...and any dissension among Republicans is a good thing!

[rinsd]

1. I think Ahnuld is eyeing Boxer's seat once his term is up (term limits)

Never have a I seen a politician go up and down like this guy does.

How many executive office holders have seen their approval in the high 60's go down to the 30's and then back up to the 50's? How many politicians have been trounced in one election only to rebound in a single year to destroy his opposition?

Its fucking insane.

[SaveElmer]

2. I have to say...

He is a far better politician than I thought he would be...gotta give him some credit...

[Frank Cannon]

18. Me too. Compared to all of his horrible co-Republicans...

Arnold looks to be not so bad.

Not that he doesn't have any skeletons in the closet--(a roomful of them, actually)--but I honestly think Arnold is, politically, on the side of the angels for the most part. I'm sure he's a perfect jack*ss in every other sense, but I look at him as a Goldwater Republican (a Clinton Democrat, if you will). As a political figure, he's infinitely preferable to any of the multitude of crazed neocons out there.

[AX10]

3. Does he have any chance at winning it if he runs against Boxer?

Anyone? :shrug:

[rinsd]

9. I wish he didn't but I don't think you can discount anything from him

Here's Survey USA's tracking poll on Boxer's approval numbers which are decent but won't blow anyone away.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=4b3d8927-da5f-48e5-98d8-5df917a9ea66

Here's the same outfit's nbumbers on Ahnuld (higher now but he has no consistency)

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollTrack.aspx?g=f298166f-5e01-41ff-8e79-ee7303f9ec07

Here's the Field poll (very respected in CA) for Ahnuld & Boxer(see #2227 & 2228

http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/

Boxer tops out at 54% approval. That;s the best she has done over her career (at least in the Field Poll). She won re-election in 2004 with 58% of the vote.

[AX10]

12. Unless the Democrats make a huge screw-up,

Boxer should get another term. That is what it looks like. It looks though, that it will be competitive.

[rinsd]

14. I put nothing past the state party here.

Shit they had Ahnuld on the ropes with a mid-30% approval ratings for much of 2006 and he coasted COASTED to re-election.

[knight_of_the_star]

38. That wasn't due to the state party

That was due to two factors really: that Arnold was willing to throw the hard right to the dogs and Angelides was not exactly a strong candidate.

[calimary]

26. I'd rather have him go up for mayor here than run against Boxer.

I don't want her facing tough competition. She's pulled a lot of serious weight so she deserves an easy glide into reelection.

[Cobalt-60]

35. probably not

He'll carry the republicon smell for decades.
Unless they decide to wrestle for it, Lincoln style.

[mike_c]

4. I wouldn't mind him taking DiFi's too much....

But I'd like to keep Barbara Boxer!

[Capn Sunshine]

34. OH YES YOU WOULD

DiFi is at least a (D) Arnold is a clever clever actor, who has put up a great movie front that people find nice and pleasant.

But look behind the surface, and it's a bunch of neocon pirates, as it always has been

Do not EVER think Arnold won't run center and govern neocon. he's doing it right now. I believe he took over a hundred grand from Chevron just today. And we're paying 3.80 for gas. And their profit for the QUARTER (not the year) is over 4 BILLION.

So, careful what you wish for

[bluestateguy]

10. I remember Pete Wilson in the early 1990's

Native Californian here. Wilson began in office in 1991 with a draconian assault on public school funding to "balance the budget". The Bush I recession hit California very hard. Then you had the LA Riots. His approval ratings dropped into the 20's.

But he turned it around in 1994 by piggy-backing onto the Proposition 187 bandwagon (the bash immigrants initiative). He also very skillfully exploited the crime issue by making not so veiled racial linkages. His opponent that year was a complete fool, Kathleen Brown. He beat her 55%-41%.

[rinsd]

11. Thanks for sharing. Kind of eerie in the parallels isn't it?

[Colobo]

5. Ahnold is a good guy

In fact, the few good Republicans out there would be excellent assets for the Democratic Party.

[fooj]

8. Apparently, you didn't live in California when we had the rolling black-outs...

Guess who had meetings with Enron before the coup de tat of Gray Davis? Bingo.


HEADLINE news out here in California.

[enid602]

17. veep

He might be a good pick for VP for those candidates who would benefit from a macho, caucasian, cross-over candidate. Add to that a bit of the old Kennedy Camelot that Ms. S brings, and it might help that candidate. I understand he cannot run for President due to his foreign birth, but does that keep him from the Vice Presidency as well?

[Frank Cannon]

20. I'm pretty sure that in order to be a VP candidate...

you also have to be eligible to be Pres. Which means that Arnold would not qualify.

[ProudDad]

23. Arnold is a fucking

steroided out FREAK!!!

GOD DAMN, PLEASE listen to someone who lives in Cowleefornnniiiiiaaa and has watched this fuck in action.

HE'S HORRIBLE. Don't believe his slick facade. Deep inside, HE'S FUCKING EVIL!!!!

Don't buy his shit the way the ignorant public bought ronny ray-gun's shit!!!

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE...

He's a "stealth FASCIST!!!"

[Tellurian]

30. So, you give him a jolt with a cattle prod and he's fine.

I sure Maria can deflate his overblown ego whenever he steps out of line in 5 seconds flat!

She isn't the type to put up with a pseudo fascist.

[ProudDad]

31. Please, I beg you

Don't believe it.

It would be at least as bad to promote this asshole as it was to promote ray-gun.

I wonder about Ms. Schriver's sanity, it's obvious she has no taste...

You may be kidding, trying to jerk me around but for all of our sakes don't make any mistakes with the groppensteroidenfuhrer...

[Tellurian]

33. no worries!

He'll run for mayor. I doubt he's congressional material anyway.

[xxqqqzme]

37. just as good as the jebster.

steroid boy is positioning himself to take Boxer's seat. He doesn't have to worry about re-election so he is telling the rethugs to kiss his nazi ass. The rethugs may not like it but they're stuck w/ him.

steroid boy will leave this state deeper in debt than when the fix was in on Davis.Why do theses rethugs scream, moan and rend their garments over 'liberal hollywood'. But love to elect RW 'B' actors?

[rpannier]

6. In some ways I guess I'm not surprised

He was never the darling of the 'real conservatives' in California (i.e. the criminal conservatives) and their legions of theocratic supporters.

They voted for him because they knew it was the only way to get a Republican elected to the governors mansion.

I think they thought he was a political lightweight (and he is) that they could control.

on note: The dangerous thing about political lightweights are...if they are even mildly competent in their job then they have exceeded expectations and in the eyes of the public they are excellent.

edited for spelling

[Colobo]

7. Look at Charlie Crist here in FL

Much better than anyone expected, and a very progressive governor.

[leveymg]

13. He's being repackaged, again.

Ahhnold is what one wants him to be. He just mirrors back his surrounding environment A weight-lifter shape-shifter, like one of those things in his Sci-Fi movies.

[rinsd]

15. His new packaging

[Tellurian]

16. If Arnold is only one thing.".He's no Fool!"

He is well aware the Republican Party is going down for the count and may not surface again for many years. This, I believe may become a trend with other (R) moderates seeking employment outside the Republican gulag into the Democratic Party. Arnold is repositioning himself to make the jump... but 'where' is the money question.

[AtomicKitten]

19. This Californian asks Ahnuld to bite me.

His chameleon tendencies make me want to yak. He is an opportunist in the truest sense of the word.

[tigereye]

24. thank you.

That's exactly how I feel. He creeps me out. The idea that he could be elected at all (although he does seem to be good at working with the opposition, or his people are...) is still horrifying to me. I don't like the idea of actors (not that he was that great an actor, either) running governments.

[AtomicKitten]

29. I'd make an exception for this guy.

purrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Tellurian]

25. But he's teachable.. carrot and stick..

a macho two year old residing in a larger than life body.

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[Tellurian]

41. Calm down..

This is only a message board for chrissakes..when his term is up and you feel so strongly he's a danger to society, don't waste your time chirping about it...work for his opponent if he runs for mayor and defeat him!!! Better than acting out here as if he's the devil himself sitting on the curb on Main St. eating babies for breakfast.

[Forkboy]

21. He seems like the perfect New Democrat.

[ProudDad]

22. There are dozens of reasons to truly dislike arnold

from his embrace of hummers to his "criminalize people who can't afford health care" plan to his love of all things corporate and cowboy capitalist.

What's not to hate...

He's a fraud, a dangerous fraud like ronny ray-gun was.

Don't believe anything he says.

[Tellurian]

27. How can you believe anything.. you can hardly understand him..

he always sounds as if he gasping for air especially when he pronounces Kallyfornkneea.

[Mz Pip]

28. Run for Mayor??

I've heard he's lusting after Barbara Boxer's Senate seat. She's up for re-election in 2010.

That could be a problem.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[Bryan]

36. I'd really like to believe this story....

It's coming from Novak, but still, it would be heartwarming to know that the California GOP is that stupid. "The Austrian Oak" has put a confident and approachable public face on their service-cutting, immigrant-hating agenda; without him, they're just the party of Duncan Hunter, Dana Rohrabacher, and Duke Cunningham. They need him more badly than he needs them.

[knight_of_the_star]

40. And he probably knows that as well

He's not that stupid and most likely is fully aware of that the GOP out here is circling the drain and running the risk of total irrelevancy.

[AX10]

43. Arnold throws scraps to the Democrats and they drool over them.

It is true that he is a repackaged Duncan "the hater" Hunter! He will try to gut all social services. He won't succeed, but he will try.

[Alexander]

39. The enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Arnold sucks.

I can't believe what I'm reading from some DUers here about the Gropenfuhrer.

I thought the whole "enemy of my enemy is my friend" mentality was more of a Republican thing. Apparently not.

[ljm2002]

42. I find it easy to dislike Arnold...

...on one overriding issue: energy. He is one of a handful of Republicans to meet with a bunch of energy powerhouses before the recall election, and then he was installed as the candidate instead of the teary-eyed Issa. Then when he got elected, surprise surprise: the $9B overcharge by the energy companies to Californians was reduced to a few hundred million and paid -- so the state's energy consumers are out by over $8B and, yawn, mission accomplished.

That one thing makes me hate him.

[CreekDog]

44. But today he's the prodigal son...just look at his budget

Hot off the presses.