Drudge Kerry quote makes it Clear; Kerry did NOT deny the story

[seventhson]

This is what he said exactly (according to the quoted story headlining at Drudge.com right now):

QUOTE:


"Well, there is nothing to report," Kerry told IMUS. "So there is nothing to talk about. I'm not worried about it. No."


This is NOT a denial.

There were a few other comments. But those on this board who claim he flatly denied it are simply wrong. He fudged it.

[WiseMen]

1. Could you Explain Your Motive to recycle this non-story

[ibegurpard]

5. small correction

this SHOULD be a non-story. wishing it was a non-story will do nothing to make it go away.

[meegbear]

11. Right ....

by not NOT bringing it up, it's a non-story. Good double-plus!

[Padraig18]

It's not a non-story.

It's already reached the local level, because a GOP precinst committeeman I eat breakfast with was positively GIDDY about it today.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

9. For sure, Padraig. But we seem to be determined to help make it a story.

Haven't we been over this enough? This is just encouraging our enemies with our division.

[lancdem]

15. Hardly a surprise

Bush is doing so poorly, the GOP needs all the help it can get.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Don't Eat Swine Nor Dine With Swine

Nothing to brag about...

[seventhson]

13. Simple. I believe Kerry is a liar and this proves it, if true

I do not want another Bonesman in the White House EVER.

And I think we have honorable candidates standing who can beat Bush.

With Kerry's nondenial "denial" today and his alleged paramour's "no comment" - which is a nondenial as well;

I think Kerry is toast.

but many here have spun this as if he has denied the story. He hasn't.

Maybe he will later and maybe not. Maybe she will too.

But we shall see.

If he is a lying cheat then he does NOT need to be our nominee this year.

Case closed.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

2. For god's sake leave it alone until you have some actual proof

There is no evidence of an affair. If you see evidence, post it. Then we'll talk.

[waylon]

Since when is proof needed?

Lets not pretend that baseless stories dont do real harm. Damage control SHOULD be what we are discussing here. Not putting our heads in the sand.

Like it or not, this IS an issue and will continue to be a problem until Kerry himself puts it to bed. His showing on Imus this morning was nothing short of fueling more speculation. Eventually, the mainstream press will pick it up.

Clinton taught us something... I hope!

[Screaming Lord Byron]

21. OK, but how many posts are we going to have on the subject?

What more can be said about this?
I believe that Kerry did not wish to refer to the subject specifically because he didn't want to give credence to a story that as yet has not one piece of real evidence. Seems like a reasonable course of action to me.

[waylon]

26. When will we pull our heads from the sand

If we continue to deny that this story is true (only Kerry knows) we are not doing ourselves any justice. I think we need to assume the worst, strategically speaking, and come to a consensus on how to deal with it. To be sure, if Kerry doesnt deal with it, the media will. Im wondering why so many Kerry supporters dont see that.

If Kerry had been more assertive in his stance, I would be more comfortable. But he was anything but that. He said "there is no story" and "hes not worried". Now thats a wishy washy way of adding fuel to the fire!

[janx]

33. I just want him to very definitely tell the truth.

We have to know about this now. If he gets the nomination and they come after him with this stuff then, we're hosed.

[Catholic Sensation]

3. here's a novel idea

instead of smearing other candidates, why not make the case for your candidate?

you're not converting anyone, you're only looking petty.

[oasis]

4. A dupe of a dupe?

[Catholic Sensation]

8. he's duping his own dupe

if this weren't really happening, I'd believe this was an episode of Seinfeld or something.

[Cush]

6. How many topics are you going to start about this?

[seventhson]

19. This thread is NOT a dupe.

Earlier I asked for a transcript to prove my point. I was going to post this on that thread but it was locked.

The subject is its own issue: what Kerry said is VERY IMPORTANT in determining his credibility.

I will repeat: Kerry did NOT deny the story.

The quote from Imus (just posted at Drudge in the last ten minutes or so) is NEW

[Catholic Sensation]

20. the quote is NEW

the bullshit you've been pulling all morning is getting quite OLD

[Jacobin]

7. I got up early this morning to listen to the Imus thing

I heard him say the same thing. Kinda brushed it off. If its not true and that's Kerry's way of trying to make the mudslinging go away, I guess that's his call.

Seems to me a flat denial would have been more persuasive. He didn't flatly deny it.

Hope this does not become a problem for the democratic candidate. I really hope it doesn't.

(I'm worried though)

[DemNoir]

10. Oh dear god

This is a sad day, I am forced for the first time to put a user on ignore. Goodbye Seventhson.

P.S.
There are many drugs that work wonders with OCD.

[lancdem]

12. Gee, maybe his didn't flat-out deny it

because that would've become a story in itself and given more of the mainstream media an excuse to pick up the story?

[bigtree]

14. Muckraking

"Man is made for something better than disturbing dirt."
-Oscar Wilde (1854–1900),

[library_max]

16. One of LBJ's favorite jokes

was about a popular Texas sheriff running for reelection. His opponents had been trying unsuccessfully to think of a good campaign issue to use against him. Finally one man suggested spreading 'a rumor that he fucks pigs.' Another protested, 'You know he doesn't do that.' 'I know,' said the first man, 'I just want to make the son of a bitch deny it.'"

[progressivebydesign]

17. Nope..not a denial. I agree...

I'm sure new details will arise to either debunk or prove this. Hey, if a 58 year old man wants to boff a 20 year old girl.. it's not illegal. But, if proven true, it does shed some light on the myth of "electability". Gosh, wasn't it ME who posted over and over here for the past month about the myth of "electability"??? My point is even MORE relevant today. Many, many voters in the primaries we just had, said in exit polls that they voted their second choice because he was "electable". I kept saying, you should never try to guesst that stuff, because too much can happen. Vote with your heart, don't try to second guess how everyone else will vote. You just don't know, as we're finding out this week, what can happen in the meantime.

We will find out soon, if this is damaging to Kerry, as more details are brought out. Or if the innuendo alone has damaged him. Then we'll see how he matches up to Bush. I'm just grateful this has been brought to life before he was rushed into the nomination by the "electability" drones. Now we can really assess WHO is electable before it's too late.

[edzontar]

18. This is no more a non-story than the SCREAM

YEEEAGGHHHHH!!!!!

I'd rather read "Kerry caught with pants down----Film at 11....." NOW than in October.

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. Kerry was never asked directly if he had an affair

He was asked if there was anything to the story.

[seventhson]

23. I am just sick of people claiming Kerry der\nied it on Imus; He DID NOT

and THAT is a big story!

I heard it live and I heard it on Imus replay of it.

Now there is a direct quote from the show online.

It is pretty clear I am right that there was no real denial.

If you who want to believe otherwise choose to ignore this fact, then that is okay with me,

But I think we need to be alert adults and face the music. Kerry's Titanic has hit an iceberg and we need to regroup.

[robsul82]

25. Giggling is not a denial.

At least Clinton denied the Lewinsky affair in plain English, although he was lying.

Later.

RJS

[Old and In the Way]

29. I'd focus on the Botox story, Seventhson.

And how that relates to Skull and Bones. This extramaital affair is a falseflag to get you off that very important story...don't fall for it!

[robsul82]

24. Why, OH why...

...was Matt Drudge credible for Rush Limbaugh's drug abuse and not credible for exposing John Kerry as a womanizer?

Why, OH why, was Matt Drudge credible in exposing Clinton's affair and not Kerry's?

What makes John Kerry "better" or "smarter" than Bill Clinton anyway?

I just don't have the answers.

Later.

RJS

[KFC]

27. A clear denial

Kerry staying above the trash. Good for him.

[stickdog]

32. A clear non-denial.

Not a good sign.

[Blue_Roses]

Give it a rest

you are on "re-cycle" mode.

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[seventhson]

30. Damn You, You thread killer bot you

I was just starting to get some traction