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Professor Hoodoo Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:41 PM
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Any Clark supporters rejecting Clark's endorsement of Kerry?
I am one. I reject Clark now because it showed another set of hypocrisy.

Why would an anti-war candidate endorse a pro-war pro-PATRIOT, pro-I-follow-Bush-because-it-is-politically-correct?

It doesn't make any sense to me.

Thus, I reject Clark now.

I'm for Dean because he's the only one now that's truly relevant (DK is still dropping out on 3/2)

Keep on jazzin'
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Jack_Dawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:42 PM
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1. I'd follow Clark anywhere
I just need more time to mourn. :nopity:
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:43 PM
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2. Maybe you were always for Dean. How would we know?
Nice try though.
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bhunt70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:46 PM
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5. bingo
"He barely has any delegates and he's dropping out on 3/2 -- I posted on the other thread if you don't believe me and I'm willnig to take all bets if necessary -- all bets will be headed towards Dean for America."
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Professor Hoodoo Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:47 PM
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6. Keep telling yourself that..
I was a Clark supporter, having donated about $750 of my own money to his campaign, because I believed in his foreign policy, and now that he went over to the other side of evil, and now he can't be trusted.

That's why I had Dean as my 2nd choice because of his large grassroot support.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:00 PM
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18. Always? The poster has only been here 3 days. How would we know? n/t
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Terwilliger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:44 PM
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3. Wouldn't that mean you DON'T think that much of Clark?
Why were you voting for him?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:45 PM
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4. I disagree
Clark said he would do whatever he could to bring an end to the Bush* administration and I think he's being true to his word.

He said yesterday that he and Kerry had differences on policy issues but he's apparently putting that behind him for the sake of dumping bush*. I take him at his word on this.
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Professor Hoodoo Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:48 PM
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7. Kerry is the wrong politican
and will be an incompetent President. Everything would be status quo.

Kerry STILL hasn't explained how he would get 40K troops to Iraq without a draft. That issue is still bothering me.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:48 PM
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8. NOPE. I have even more respect for him.
He's picked the man I support after Clark. His endorsement just proves how smart and wise the General is. He wants to WIN and get the BFEE out of office. That sounds like a plan to me! My dearest hope is that they will team up in the GE.
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:18 PM
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28. More respect for Clark
He can put the party and the country ahead of his ego. He is what I call a Patriot, he wants to get rid of the * and is willing to do all it takes.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:49 PM
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9. Clark was not in this for Clark - serving the country was his purpose
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 12:50 PM by robbedvoter
His pledge:

"I will support our Party's nominee, to continue this campaign until we take back the White House next November.  This soldier stands ready for duty.  It's not going to be easy.  So I've got one bit of advice for our nominee: give 'em hell and never retreat.
As a general who spent thirty-four years fighting for my country, here is my pledge: I will do everything I can -- everything -- to make sure George W. Bush doesn't play politics with national security."
what he said to Wooff Wooff:

WOODRUFF: But you also said the country should not have a Washington insider as a president. And John Kerry is certainly an insider.
http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0402/12/ip.00.html
CLARK: What I've said is the country needs the best president it can get. And the country needs a change in administration in Washington. And we're going to get that change, Judy. I'm just convinced that we can do that.

I'll follow the old man wherever he goes. Bye bye to you, "supporter" I never knew.
P.S. Voting Clark in the primaries!
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:49 PM
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10. And who will you vote for in the GE?
Maybe some of us thought the IWR was not a disqualifier for any candidate.

Some of us meaning: most of the Democratic Party in reality.

Campaigning against an opponent in a race, and getting Bush out of the White House are two different goals, my friend.

Clark has simply moved on to the second, and more important, goal.

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Jivenwail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:51 PM
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11. Absolutely not
I believe in Gen Clark and do not run just because he sees fit to try and unite the party. He is doing the right thing. Why be devisive? He wants what is best for this country and if he can't be the one, then he will do what's right to ensure that bushco is forced out in November. I simply can't remember in my lifetime any candidates that were at odds during the primary season that did not come together when it was all said and done. Do you remember Bradley and Gore? Or what happened to McCain when he ran against Bush?

It's what is best for the party and for the country to come together on this. There are other Dem candidates still in this race and relevancy is all in the eye of the beholder. So if you don't agree with Clark's decision, that is of course your right. You are entitled to your feelings, of course. But I do not find it the least bit hypocritical on Clark's part and applaud his sense of unity for this country.

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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:52 PM
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12. I respect Clark more, it is the wise and sensible thing to do.
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Professor Hoodoo Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:55 PM
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13. Then why endorse Kerry immediately?
Kerry is trash.

He does NOT deserve the nomination.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:58 PM
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15. So because YOU think a candidate is "trash" that's supposed to be
a valid reason for others to reject him! Gee, your argument is just so convincing! :eyes:

Now I know I'm through the looking glass here on DU! :crazy:
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democratreformed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:58 PM
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16. Because it is the right thing to do
It is going to take all we have to win in November. He is working for a unified party to do just that, IMO.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:00 PM
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17. Clark has always said national security will be the decider..
in the GE. So naturally he would endorse the only other candidate left with national security credentials. Haven't you been paying attention?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:02 PM
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19. And Dean does?
Edited on Fri Feb-13-04 01:02 PM by incapsulated
Kerry was my number two from the start.

Yes, I was bitter and angry about the primaries, and felt that Clark was never given a fair chance. I didn't even want to look at Kerry. I held it against him. I doubt that Clark is licking the same wounds.

It's over now. Dean isn't getting the nomination, and if he did, we would lose so badly, it's unthinkable.

I don't know why Clark came out so quickly. It may have been to put the brakes on the Drudge story. It may have been because he honestly believes that Kerry is the best man for the job now that he is out, and in that I agree with him, so why put it off? I respect his decision, as I have respect for the man.
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 12:58 PM
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14. abso-freakin-lutely. The Kerry supporters here are acting just like the
Dean supporters used to. Mocking you for supporting someone who "wasn't going to win the nomination", saying that you were hurting the party by critisizing/attacking Kerry (depending on who's diction you're using)

and basing their claims of being more electable in the GE on nonsense like primary results and national head-to-heads

And now they're calling allegations of an AP reporter being shuttled off to Kenya and the FACT that Clark told reporters Kerry would implode over an intern issue as a "non-story"

Insanity
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:04 PM
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22. Think you had better get you supposed FACTS straight
Only one person has said Clark said anything about an intern. Your favorite source for news. DRUDGE!

Don

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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:05 PM
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23. Bombtrack, that story is NOT a "fact" but an unproven
unverified allegation by a GOP hack and a couple of right-wing cable personalities whose low ratings are well deserved.

Treating Drudge Sludge like legitimate news just gets it on your own hands, and it smells really bad.

As to the Clark "off the record" comments to a dozen reporters? Name one. Again, unverified, unproven, unbeleiveable.
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:07 PM
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24. If Kerry implodes, for any reason
Only Edwards could take his place, and you know that. But it's fun to side with the Dean supporters and beat up on Clark, isn't it?

And your "facts" need a little more backup than so-and-so said on such-and-such. I will believe that Clark said something when an actual reporter that heard it says so.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:03 PM
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20. You're not a REAL Clark supporter. Clark's doing what's best for the party
Guess you can't understand that.
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KFC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:04 PM
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21. Clark's endorsement is HUGE
Say hello to our nomineee, Kerry.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:07 PM
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25. And all that jaaaaaazzzzzzzz
tippity-tappety tippity-tappety :party:
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:11 PM
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27. oh! cut that out.:-)
:party:
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:07 PM
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26. His endorsement affects me not at all
I am still completely, 100%, ABB.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:24 PM
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29. I don't choose candidates because of endorsements
I don't choose candidates because of endorsements, therefore Clark's endorsement of Kerry is meaningless for me.

All of the remaining candidates are flawed. I can think of better people not running that better encompass the principles each stands for:
Edwards (populism) or Kerry (liberalism) or Dean (antiwar and political reform). For example, I think Russ Feingold better encompasses the combination of principled anti-war reformer, populist and liberal that I would like to see as Presidnent.

On Mar 2, I'll vote for Clark.

In the GE, I'll support the Democratic candidate.

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-13-04 01:24 PM
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30. Locking
Disruptor thread.

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