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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:19 PM
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Defections now likely on Iraq bill
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Defections now likely on Iraq bill
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-05-23 19:09. Congress

By Mike Soraghan, The Hill

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Woolsey has voted consistently against Iraq supplemental spending bills, saying they don't do enough to get the U.S. out of Iraq.

Her observation is backed by comments by members like Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.). He was a surprise vote in favor of the original supplemental this year, but he said yesterday he cannot back the bill again without a timeline.

Grijalva said: "I've supported it all the way to this point. I understand the work that went into it. But if the goal is accountability, I don't think this gets us closer to that goal."

Rep. Maurice Hinchey (D-N.Y .) said he expects enough Democrats to switch that leadership vote-counters will lose the margin of victory they have enjoyed so far.

"I'm on the edge," he said. "I'm not liking this. A lot of people have bought into the notion that you have to fund the troops. Funding the troops means more troops are going to die."

Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) indicated that just because he has voted for it before does not mean he will vote for it without a timeline.


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:22 PM
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1. Pssssst....
The rank and file maybe listening after all...

Could it be the leadership knew this would happen but didn't want to rankle Joey Lieberman or donors to the party...

This could have been their plan all along...

They had to have talked to the Rank and File before cobbling the bill together...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:24 PM
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2. I'd be overjoyed if that was/is their 'plan'. The beginning of this piece
claims rethugs will have to take up the slack. Hmmm...
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:33 PM
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8. If they do now....
They won't come September...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:38 PM
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9. Now seems better; less bloodshed, and let the criminal in chief
take the hit.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:00 PM
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12. The problem is that Bush doesn't care....
He is oblivious to the political consequences of his behavior...
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:25 PM
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3. Self deleted
Edited on Wed May-23-07 02:28 PM by Heath Hatcher
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:26 PM
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4. Excellent, Ma'am
The torpedoeing of this by a back-benchers' rebellion would be an excellent and salutory outcome.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:31 PM
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7. Assuming they get enough peoole to go down in flames
:-)

Otehrwise this inside baseball shit will escape most muricans
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:27 PM
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5. Most rank and file will vote no
Our gripe should be with the leadership and about two dozen DLC Liebercrats.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:30 PM
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6. Yeah for Grijalva... one of the few good ones coming out of AZ
I PRAY that more stand up and vote against this bill.
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:38 PM
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10. It'll be nice to see it not pass.
And seeing also that the Democrat's rolling over for * won't matter.
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Heath Hatcher Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 02:56 PM
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11. I think alot of Democrats will vote againist this bill
Now I can't speak for the Blue Dogs or the DLC but the only reason alot of anti war Democrats voted for the last bill because of the withdrawal plan, not with that out alot of anti-war Democrats like Sam Farr and Jan Shakowsky will vote againist it. Put it this way they could be alot more then 13 Democrats that will down this bill.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-23-07 03:06 PM
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13. Yes! Now we're talking!
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