The "anti-war" left. I really take offense to that label.

[jillan]

I hate war. I wish to God that there never was a war.
But, I do realize there are times that we have to go to war.

Just because I am totally against this war in Iraq and want it to end ASAP doesn't make me 'anti-war'. It is an unfair talking point that has now been used as a label against anyone that is speaking out against Iraq. Or against anyone that is speaking out against pre-emptive war.

How dare people put a label on me!

[bunkerbuster1]

1. I prefer "America-hating pinko."

And then there's the good ol' "pro-terrorist" -- yeah, I'm all about the religious subjugation of the womenfolk.

Guess my point is, most every right-wing label is demonstrably retarded. "Anti-war Left" no more so than the rest.

[jillan]

2. Coming from the right wing wackos (my fav label) is understandable

But it is coming from members of the Democratic party.

Afterall, they have to appease the 'anti-war left'. barf

[EFerrari]

4. They don't have to appease us. They only need us once every two

years or so. We're their cheap dates? lol

[jillan]

5. If they don't appease me this week with this funding bill

they may need to go to match.com to find another date.

[EFerrari]

7. I'm about ready to take an effen candle and just sit on Pelosi's office

steps until I fall over or she gets a brain. Because I don't know what else to do.

[jillan]

12. All I can say is that I wouldn't want to be Pelosi right now.

I am sure she is not resting too well these days.
How to appease both the administration, and the anti-war left at the same time?! oh my :)

[EFerrari]

13. That would be her anti war extremist left wing DISTRICT.

Me, either. :)

[EFerrari]

3. I am fond of "Anti war left wing extremist". It's like a good yoga stretch.

:)

[wyldwolf]

6. Questions: what are the circumstance you find war justifiable and...

..would you take to the streets if another war was waged not based on what you think are justifiable reasons?

[jillan]

9. I have to question that - while I agreed that we did need to go

into Afganistan after 9/11... which was before I questioned 9/11... we didn't even get OBL and the taliban is back and in full force.
So did we really need to go to that war? Right now, I would have to say no.

But then you look back at history, we helped the situation in Bosnia, took down Hitler, etc.

Would I take to the streets if this administration started another war? Damn right!

[wyldwolf]

14. that isn't really what I asked.

Sure, the current administration has zero credibility now in terms of military adventures, but what are the circumstances that would make you support a war.

Do we have to be attacked?
Does one of our allies have to be attacked?
Does a country ruled by a fundamentalist dictator with a nuke have to threaten to use it?
Genocide within another country's borders?

[jillan]

17. If we were really attacked - probably yes.

All of the other circumstances you mentioned....No..unless it was necessary and ALL OTHER OPTIONS were first used. And never alone.

It is hard to guess, without any exact circumstances.

[wyldwolf]

19. heh! Imagine the current president was never selected, and the Iraq fiasco never happened...

..now imagine a president you would approve of (Kucinich? Fiengold?) came to the American people and said, "We are positive a certain country has WMDs, is seeking nuclear bombs, and is supporting terrorists that have attacked us. We've sent in inspectors. We've tried to reason with them, but to no avail. I feel the only recourse is to assemble a coalition and take them out."

OK by you? Hard call for me, but I would lean "yes" if I trusted the president.

I'm for military intervention in Darfur now.

[jillan]

20. Military intervention in Darfur only if we have the support of the UN

Biden is pushing for this, and I have mixed feelings about it.

I trusted Clinton (Bill - geez you have to add that these days) when we went into Bosnia. So again, it would all depend on who was in charge.

[wyldwolf]

21. the credibility of the president is paramount. We agree there.

[EFerrari]

18. Intervention in a genocide, preferably with a UN consensus,

and IF it would do more good than harm. But, I'm a pacifist so, fwiw.

[EFerrari]

15. I was against going into Afghanistan and rearranging rocks there.

The people suffered and died as we knew they would and nothing came of it, as some of us suspected at the time.

And that was before I questioned 9/11, too. :shrug:

[More Than A Feeling]

8. I like it, personally.

I have made a promise to myself that I will not support any war that I wouldn't be willing to go fight myself. That qualifies for the anti-war label, I think.

[Freddie Stubbs]

10. Is "anti Iraq War left" acceptable?

:shrug:

[jillan]

11. Yes - or "people that think the war in Iraq is a bunch of BS"

but that wouldn't fit on a bumper sticker. And definitely too many words for chimpy - lol

edit for typo

[EFerrari]

16. Sure -- just as "anti-cronyism" is or, "anti slaughter because our

idiot pretender can't hold a conversation" is also good.