Local church bringing Sean Hannity, Newt Gingrich and Ollie North to a huge rally- help, DU!

[mahina]

Aloha,

Anybody else out there see this kind of blatant politics in the megachurches on the mainland? Any ideas about how to tackle this?
The big churches are giant powerhouses now, turning large segments of the map that were blue forever, red. It is so tragic!
Here's the website for New Hope church. Just horrors!

http://www.enewhope.org/
Please email them politely if you feel so moved, mahalo.... [e-mail]

[Big Pappa]

1. Seems like a

good time to go on vacation.

[mahina]

2. In case you do, there is a protest across the street from the Convention Center planned.

Friday, 5:30 or 6.

So saddened that the church is going this route.

They used to hand out voter guides that only had republicans on it. We have so few republicans, they didn't make a dent in the local elections, but they made abig and very negative difference in the national election. By manipulating the way people think about these matters, they guide the people.

How can they be so political? Is that legal?

[Big Pappa]

3. I meant it

was a good time for you to go on vacation silly.:spank:

[MichaelHarris]

4. F%$# that

If they speak in the church and pass the collection plate later film it. Forward it to the IRS.

[dsa]

5. pardon my confusion

but don't dems do this all the time too? i mean dems come to speak at churches (especially african american churches) around where i live constantly. what's the difference? am i missing something?

[bluerum]

7. Yes, you are confused. eom

[eShirl]

8. never seen it, heard of it or read of it

until your post, of course

[dsa]

21. i feel like i'm in bizarro world

didn't you see hillary speaking at a church 2 or 3 weeks ago? bill did it all the time. every democratic nominee i can think of makes speeches at churches at some point in the campaign, especially to african american churches.

[madrchsod]

11. a church can not endorse,raise funds,or have a candidate

ask for funds on church property. politicians can be invited to speak about spiritual matters but they can not ask for funds or votes. other than that a church can do and invite anyone it wants to.
welcome to the inexact science of politics...

[Bridget Burke]

18. There's no law against churches sponsoring Speeches by Scumbags.

But the Jamboree described in the OP is truly nausea-inducing.

[dsa]

20. neither the post nor the site say anything about raising money

so why the insinuation something illegal is afoot?

[sanskritwarrior]

6. Don't attend, protest their appearance or just ignore them

They do have a right to be there free speech and all that rubbish. I will avoid town that day, maybe just surf at Makaha Beach or something........

[eShirl]

9. report them to the IRS. n/t

[lynne]

10. I believe that the law reads -

- that churches cannot promote one candidate over another during an election. A rally of non-candidates promotes social agenda and opinion, something that churches do every day. And - YES - both parties partake in the same type events at churches. Go to Google Images and search on KERRY CHURCH and you will see pics of Kerry campaigning in churches before the last election.

I'd say attend the protest OR find a church willing to promote a liberal rally. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!

[Joe Bacon]

12. Sounds more like NEW DOPE CHURCH to me.

Nothing had done more damage to the world than Christianity. Nothing.

[gratuitous]

13. Yeah, that whole "serve one another in love" crap

Totally detrimental to life on earth. Those people should just be lined up and shot, right?

[ieoeja]

15. I miss the Saturnalia.

Little know historical fact: one of Constatine's successors attempted a pagan revival. After decades of Christianity, the return of animal sacrifice disgusted most citizens of the empire. But they tolerated the pagans for a few months not wanting to repeat the evils heaped upon them when their own religion was not tolerated.

But then the first Saturnalia rolled around with gangs roaming the streets seeking out unprotected women to rape in the name of Saturn. The people rose up against these gangs, against other pagans and, eventually, against the Emperor.

[mahina]

19. Whoa, who knew?

Oh right, historians~ interesting!

[Joe Bacon]

22. It's the hypocrisy I detest

So sick and tired of Jesusbots who BS the BS but, when push comes to shove, they always follow Ayn (as in Mine) Rand and Milton "Screw everyone and Look Out For #1" Friedman.

[Fire Walk With Me]

14. How can churches support money and power-grabbing warmongers?

Unless they are waiting to join the grabbing?

What happened to separation of church and state? WTF?

[Arugula Latte]

16. As my mother always says, "Religion is big business."

A lot of religion is all about money and power-grabbing.

[bumblebee1]

17. If you hear any rumbling,

it may not be a volcano. It could be the roof of the New Hope church collapsing.

[OHdem10]

23. Our Candidates should weasel and invitation

to go to the Mega Churches. Democrats attend these
churches also.

[ProudDad]

24. Sick the guy with the napalm bombs from Liberty Univ. on them? (n/t)