Allright - anyone have a list of which Pres candidates voted for the Vichy Iraq bill?

[Taverner]

You know, the one that gives Bush everything and bogs us down in this fucking quagmire indefinitely?

I'm pretty sure Kuch didn't vote for it (and he WILL have my vote in the primary - I'm sick of this shit)

Did Hilary vote for it?

Did Obama vote for it?

ON EDIT: Oops - didn't realize the Senate vote is today. Man all this traveling is messing with my head.

Whomever votes for this bill will not have my vote. Not in the primary. Not in the general election. I might just vote "None of the Above"

[Virginia Dare]

1. I don't think they've voted yet, it's later today....n/t

[Lerkfish]

2. someone else linked to an editorial that says we'll never know who voted for it.

not sure I understand how, but they're saying its buried in a bill or something so we can't know who.
We'll see if that proves true as the day moves on.

[Taverner]

3. There has to be a way...

If it's buried, someone will find it.

[Virginia Dare]

5. There will be two separate votes..

one for the war funding which I assume the majority of the Democrats will vote against, and one for the domestic funding, which I assume the majority will vote for. I guess they just need enough total "ayes" to pass. It's pretty clever when you think about it.

[illinoisprogressive]

4. Obama is reading the bill and will comment later. don't know which way he will go.

[peaches2003]

9. Oh, please

You think he's sitting there reading the thousand pages? Give me a break. Any bill that gives Bush exactly what he wants and which the WH is crowing about all over town doesn't need to be read word for word. Bush is getting his $$$, no benchmarks he has to keep, no timetable for withdrawal. Obama (and I used to think I could support him) is seeing which way the wind is blowing and what his polital gurus are saying he should do. Same for Hillary.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. No one's voted on it yet in either the Senate nor the House.

[Totally Committed]

7. Looks like we'll never know how any of them voted:

See the DU thread about it here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x283292

See his entire article at:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/the-rise-of-the-dick-chen_b_49207.html

If they have their way, we will never kknow how ANY of them voted.

TC

[hughee99]

8. Unbelievable!!!

If this happens, wait and see how many people try to justify their votes as "procedural" or claim that they were tricked.

[Capn Sunshine]

10. I hear ya there

Obama votes for this, I'm off the train, at the next stop.
If I wanted triangulation I'd support Hillary.

[Taverner]

11. Okay - Hillary and Obama DID NOT vote for the bill

Both of them are still on in my book...

[ShortnFiery]

12. But like good "corporations first" dems, they both voted AGAINST raising the minimum wage.

Neither one will score my vote for President. :thumbsdown:

[Taverner]

13. So you'd rather they voted for the war and min wage?

They were both in the same bill...

[ShortnFiery]

14. Oh, I stand corrected. I thought they were voted on separately.

Thank you for that correction. :hi: :blush:

[Taverner]

15. Min wage was rolled into the bill as an earmark

It was kind of nice touch, honestly. Basically making Bush sign Min Wage into law by forcing his hand over Iraq. Of course, The Republicans can use the No votes as ammo now...

[Forkboy]

17. Is Kennedy a corporatist?

Because he's worked on raising the minimum wage for years and yet he still voted against it. :shrug:

[annabanana]

16. A useful site:

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issues/votes/?votenum=181&chamber=S&congress=1101

Motion to Concur in House Amdt. to Senate Amdt to H.R.2206; U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans' Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act, 2007