In New Zogby Poll, Obama Tops All '08 Candidates

[flpoljunkie]

Obama Leads Four Republicans in U.S. Race
May 29, 2007

(Angus Reid Global Monitor) - Democrat Barack Obama is the top 2008 presidential contender in the United States, according to a poll by Zogby International. At least 46 per cent of respondents would support the Illinois senator in head-to-head contests against four prospective Republican nominees.

Obama holds a three-point edge over Arizona senator John McCain, a six-point lead over former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani, and a 17-point advantage over both former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney and actor and former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson.

In other contests, both New York senator Hillary Rodham Clinton and former North Carolina senator John Edwards lead Romney and Thompson, but trail Giuliani and McCain. New Mexico governor Bill Richardson is virtually tied with Thompson, leads Romney by three points, and trails Giuliani and McCain.

more...

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/15905

[MaineDem]

1. That's quite a rise for Richardson, no?

Interesting information.

[flpoljunkie]

2. Richardson in solid fourth place these days. Will Russert grilling hurt him in followup polls?

I watched the replay of the interview and wished that Richardson had told Russert to can it, in no uncertain terms. Russert was out for blood--something he never does with the R's.

[snowbear]

27. I think it depends on how he (Richardson) does in the upcoming debates..

I agree.. he wasn't great on MTP. You could tell he was uncomfortable throughout the entire grilling.

Until the end that is.. When Russett-Potato Head started asking him about why he roots for the Red Sox, yet his idle is a Yankee, Richardson and him had a pretty funny exchange back and forth.

Seems like forever since we've had a debate.. I can't wait to see how all of the candidates do on June 3rd..

[Bitwit1234]

3. Darn now which poll is that.

There must be about seventy leven out there. I guess they finally found ONE where Obama leads. And of course since HuffingtonPost is so anti-Hillary they have to make it the top post on their page.

Hillary and Obama won't get the nomination. This country is still too full of prejudice It is a shame because Hillary with Obama as VP would be a hell of a combination.

[flpoljunkie]

4. It is a Zogby International poll. Excerpt below.

Zogby: Obama Leads All Republicans in General Election Head to Head Contests

Moderates hold the key as match-ups show Giuliani, McCain would defeat Clinton and Edwards

In the race for the Democratic Party presidential nomination, Barack Obama trails fellow U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton in a national survey of likely Democratic Primary voters, but that same survey shows he would fare better against Republican opponents in General Election match–ups, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.

Obama would defeat all Republican opponents, including John McCain of Arizona, Rudy Giuliani of New York City, Mitt Romney of Massachusetts, and Fred Thompson of Tennessee in prospective presidential contests, the poll shows.

Meanwhile, Clinton would be defeated by both McCain and Giuliani, but would win against Romney and Thompson, the survey shows. Democrat John Edwards, the former senator from North Carolina, would also lose to McCain and Giuliani but defeats Romney and Thompson.

The telephone survey, conducted May 17–20, 2007, included 993 respondents and carries a margin of error of +/– 3.2 percentage points.

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http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1316

[Colobo]

5. And who will get the nomination?

Edwards is not leading in any national poll...

[w4rma]

6. Hillary = Lieberman; Obama = Dean; Edwards = Kerry, in the polls.

Just watch. This is all playing out exactly like 2003-2004.

[Colobo]

7. Different years, different situations

[Ethelk2044]

14. We have come a long way with Race

Obama will do well as President.

[vanboggie]

8. Note this is poll of likely Republicon voters - no Dems

Source: Zogby International
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 378 likely Republican voters, conducted from May 17 to May 20, 2007.

[mckeown1128]

9. This poll DID include dems...

if you go to this link http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1316 then you will see what proportions of repukes and dems. This posted link goes to an article that seems to have a typo about the results.

[vanboggie]

34. I stand corrected. Thanks. n/t

[flpoljunkie]

21. mckeown1128 is correct. Check the direct Zogby link of his poll.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1316

[moosen]

10. I hope people aren't getting there hopes up with Obama

Because I'm seeing the Dean 04 situations playing out all over again. Everybody is in love with him now, but when it's time to get serious and pick a candidate, it won't be Barack, just like it wasn't Dean in 04.

[jakem]

11. so...

let's pick someone we don't like? so they win? Hillary? very magical thinking.

im sure barack has been coached not to scream on mike.

[moosen]

12. It's all about winning the presidency

And picking an electable candidate.

It MAY not be Hillary

It's definitely not Obama.

[jakem]

13. I don't entirely agree with that.

It is about winning with the right candidate.

[Ethelk2044]

17. I agree.

[moosen]

19. re

And I don't believe Obama is the right candidate at this time, in this political climate.

[Colobo]

25. You don't, but many people do.

I don't think Hillary is the right candidate at any time, in any political climate.

[moosen]

29. your "many" is not enough to win the electoral vote

not even close

[Colobo]

16. With Obama, we all win. The country wins.

Root for your candidate, that we will root for ours.

[elizm]

26. Definitely NOT Obama? ....

...And you base that on WHAT 'infinite wisdom'?????

[Ethelk2044]

15. Wrong Obama is taking it to the next Level

He will do well when it comes to election time. All he has to do is get out his base. He will do fine. He is also pulling some repugs. I know some and they are planning on voting for him. He needs to just keep doing what he is doing and he will win.

[NYCGirl]

18. And we all remember how well that "electability" thing worked out last time.

:eyes:

[moosen]

23. no we don't

because the only remotely electable Democrats from the 04 field were Gephardt and Edwards. Edwards was on the wrong end of the ticket and Gephardt went out after Iowa. Gore didn't run. Kerry was too dour, too weak, too easily branded as an effete northeast liberal. He got the nod because he wasn't as crazy as dean, and had more experience than edwards.

[Egnever]

36. lol yea Dean was crazy

Sure wish that cook was in the white house. Who has done more good for our country since dumbasses decided he was nuts, Dean or any of the also rans?

Way to buy into the media bullshit there. Any more talking points you want to spout?

[flpoljunkie]

22. Obama will be better candidate for '08. He does better with Independents and even some Republicans.

Clinton's first in national polls primarily due to name recognition. Republicans want her as our nominee, as she would be the easiest to beat--no matter who they end up with as their nominee.

[TeamJordan23]

35. Sorry, but Obama is no Dean

Dean was not doing well in national polls, unlike Kerry in 2004. Obama does better than Clinton in most national polls against Repubs.

[Nimrod2005]

20. This poll has good news for more than just Obama.

Very good news...

[rinsd]

24. Something about this poll is rotten. Obama closer to McCain than Giuliani?

McCain beating Clinton AND Edwards?

Don't get me wrong, this same poll show my candidate with a huge lead (not shown on this article) sp I would like to believe it but McCain even with or ahead of Rudy in head to head macthups?

[elizm]

28. Your candidate only shows huge lead in the Dem. Primary....

...Not in the head to head match-ups in the general election. If you have a poll that shows differently, I would like to see it. Could you post a link??

[rinsd]

30. That is what I meant. Hillary's lead in the Dem primary in this same pol is 15pts

Here's the Zogby poll with Obama winning head to head mathcups.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1316

Scroll down for Dem & GOP primary results.

The head to head stuff make no sense. McCain's campaign is imploding(down to 13% on this poll for the primary) yet he does better against Obama than Rudy does? Yet he beats Edwards and Clinton?

Now I want to make clear that I think Obama wins head to head matchups with all GOPers. He does well among independents. But the other numbers just make it seem...well weird.

In terms of head to head, here's Rasmussen

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/favorables/election_2008_democratic_candidates_running_in_2008_presidential_election

There's also a Newsweek poll but is almost a month old. Still want it?

[illinoisprogressive]

31. nothing is rotten. What it is is that name recognition are driving the national polls.

and some people think if they choose the same boring, establishment candidate, just like we have most of the past 23 years (mondale, dukakis, kerry, possibly hillary) we will win. They still don't get it that you pick the one who can win and not the one that makes half the base stay home and not vote like Hillary
A person is electable who can drive the vote and create the excitement.

[snowbear]

32. I agree.. Around here, were paying attention. Nationally though.. not so much YET..

They'll start paying attention as the summer comes to an end, and we've had numerous debates..

[rinsd]

33. Thank you for not addressing any of my points.

My point isn't that Obama isn't winning head to head matchups(several polls show that). Its that this particular poll that does not make sense.