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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:34 PM
Original message
(Venting here) My own mother sent me this "Tax Truths" email
Edited on Wed May-30-07 02:05 PM by underpants
>> Now that we have passed April 15th (17th this year)
>> this seems
>> appropriate........
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax truth
>>
>>
>>
>> At first I thought this was funny...then I realized
>> the awful truth of it.
>>
>> Be sure to read all the way to the end!
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his land,
>>
>> Tax his bed,
>>
>> Tax the table
>>
>> At which he's fed.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his tractor,
>>
>> Tax his mule,
>>
>> Teach him taxes
>>
>> Are the rule.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his cow,
>>
>> Tax his goat,
>>
>> Tax his pants,
>>
>> Tax his coat.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his ties,
>>
>> Tax his shirt,
>>
>> Tax his work,
>>
>> Tax his dirt.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his tobacco,
>>
>> Tax his drink,
>>
>> Tax him if he
>>
>> Tries to think.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his cigars,
>>
>> Tax his beers,
>>
>> If he cries, then
>>
>> Tax his tears.
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax his car,
>>
>> Tax his gas,
>>
>> Find other ways
>>
>> To tax his ass
>>
>>
>>
>> Tax all he has
>>
>> Then let him know
>>
>> That you won't be done
>>
>> Till he has no dough.
>>
>>
>>
>> When he screams and hollers,
>>
>> Then tax him some more,
>>
>> Tax him till
>>
>> He's good and sore.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then tax his coffin ,
>>
>> Tax his grave,
>>
>> Tax the sod in
>>
>> Which he's laid.
>>
>>
>>
>> Put these words
>>
>> upon his tomb,
>>
>> " Taxes drove me to my doom..."
>>
>>
>>
>> When he's gone,
>>
>> Do not relax,
>>
>> Its time to apply
>>
>> The inheritance tax.
>>
>>
>>
>> Accounts Receivable Tax
>>
>> Building Permit Tax
>>
>> CDL license Tax
>>
>> Cigarette Tax
>>
>> Corporate Income Tax
>>
>> Dog License Tax
>>
>> Excise Taxes
>>
>> Federal Income Tax
>>
>> Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA)
>>
>> Fishing License Tax
>>
>> Food License Tax
>>
>> Fuel Permit Tax
>>
>> Gasoline Tax (42 cents per gallon)
>>
>> Gross Receipts Tax
>>
>> Hunting License Tax
>>
>> Inheritance Tax
>>
>> Inventory Tax
>>
>> IRS Interest Charges IRS Penalties (tax on top of
>> tax)
>>
>> Liquor Tax
>>
>> Luxury Taxes
>>
>> Marriage License Tax
>>
>> Medicare Tax
>>
>> Personal Property Tax
>>
>> Property Tax
>>
>> Real Estate Tax
>>
>> Service Charge Tax
>>
>> Social Security Tax
>>
>> Road Usage Tax
>>
>> Sales Tax
>>
>> Recreational Vehicle Tax
>>
>> School Tax
>>
>> State Income Tax
>>
>> State Unemployment Tax (SUTA)
>>
>> Telephone Federal Excise Tax
>>
>> Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
>>
>> Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Taxes
>>
>> Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax
>>
>> Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax
>>
>> Telephone State and Local Tax
>>
>> Telephone Usage Charge Tax
>>
>> Utility Taxes
>>
>> Vehicle License Registration Tax
>>
>> Vehicle Sales Tax
>>
>> Watercraft Registration Tax
>>
>> Well Permit Tax
>>
>> Workers Compensation Tax
>>
>>
>>
>> STILL THINK THIS IS FUNNY?
>>
>>
>>
>> Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago, and
>> our nation was the most
>> prosperous in the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> We had absolutely no national debt, had the largest
>> middle class in the
>> world, and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.
>>
>>
>>
>> What the hell happened? Can you spell
>> "politicians!"
>>
>>
>>
>> And I still have to "press 1" for English.
______________________________________________________-

My reply

Wasn't 100 years ago 1907? We had a vibrant middle class in 1907? Really? No of course we didn't we, as a nation that is because we are all in this together--right?, had just busted up the massive crony system of the monopolies that used hired thugs by the HAVES against the people fighting and dying to bring about safe working conditions, safe products standards, safe food requirements, child labor laws (this mythical Mom stayed at home but you can rest assured the kids didn't they were losing fingers down at the factory), livable wages, a 40 hour work week and so on. That was called the progressive movement it helped make this country into the most prosperous on the globe and brought about the middle class as we know it today....hold it wait look back at that list of things and see how many are directly under fire today.

Safe food? Really? "They" killed 9,000 family pets just two months ago.
40 hour work week, really?
Safe product standards, really?

I could go on but lets look at some other things that the progressives brought this country that STRENGTHENED this country (oh by the way these were all fought tooth and nail by the conservatives who routinely put together this kind of email)

The interstate highway system
Labels for you medicine
Centers for Disease Control
A man on the moon
Rural electrification-that sit well with anyone reading this?
Non-urban mortgages
The FDIC
The GI Bill
Public schools
Public universities
Women's right to vote
Family and medical leave act
Social Security-that okay with anyone reading this email?
Medicare and Medicaid
The Marshall plan
Environmental laws
Oh and civil rights

The only people who pay an inheritance tax are people who are too cheap to protect their money FROM that tax.

Speaking of cheap-the reason you have to push "1" is because it is cheaper to plug in a machine than it is to HIRE A HUMAN BEING

The Spanish-American War is finally paid for so the phone tax (you did claim that on your tax form didn't you?) is over. Thanks to progressives using our court system.

The unemployment tax is really insurance and as anyone know insurance is a great deal IF you ever have to use it. In Virginia our esteemed political leaders have fixed it so that you have to succumb to the will of the SOB who just fired you to determine if YOU get to collect on YOUR insurance policy.

The hunting and fishing taxes don't apply to anyone who doesn't willingly decide to hunt and fish. Here in Virginia the Dep. Of Game and Inland fisheries is wholly self sustained by these FEES. No other tax revenue is used.

Most of what is listed here are local sales taxes-don't you like your police and firemen?

There is no School Tax in Va-that exists only in states like Pa. that have no personal property tax.

And finally-INCOME TAX. Unless the people reading this make a LOT more than you would expect they paid way more than there share of the income tax pool over the years. The middle class ( household income >$50K a year is actually the top 50%) pays the highest percentage of the national income taxes than in any modern country. In other words what you read is part of the organized and cohesive system that had been constructed and many have subscribed to to RIP YOU OFF.



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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:42 PM
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1. Your mother is a freeper.
:hide:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:45 PM
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4. She didn't use to be
when they get older they either start believeing the emails or they suddenly start going to church
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:49 PM
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16. start watching too much TV and start believing the fear mongering.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:38 AM
Response to Reply #4
20. yeah, I've noticed that, too.
Think it'll happen to us?


I thought the "still have to dial 1" was particularly bad. These people couldn't even stay on a subject for a 100% tax refund.

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flamin lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:43 PM
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2. Way to go! NO NEW TAXES! Followed immediately by WHERE'S
MY SERVICES?
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:45 PM
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3. Pretty good answer. Or you could of just asked what federal and local
Edited on Wed May-30-07 01:47 PM by sinkingfeeling
services/programs she thinks we should give up. There are thousands of things paid for with tax dollars that folks never think about. The weather service, meat inspections, maps, etc. are just simple things that people rely on, but fuss about paying for.

P.S. I vote we cut the military budget and its secret Black Ops by 75%; close bases world wide; and stop paying for Bush's Folly.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:57 PM
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5. my answer
I got something like this in an e-mail, too, with some half-assed attempts to make it look Canadian. Then it went into a screed against newcomers who sponge off the system.
The person who sent it to me (as the most politically aware person she knows *blush*) asked if it was true before forwarding it.

Here it is.

Subject: Canadian Suckers !

Welfare Poem

I cross ocean, poor and broke,
Take bus, see employment folk.
Nice man treat me good in there,
Say I need to see welfare.
Welfare say, "You come no more,
We send cash right to your door."
Welfare checks, they make you wealthy,
Medic aid it keep you healthy!
By and by, I got plenty money,
Thanks to you, Canadian dummy.
Write to friends in motherland,
Tell them 'come fast as you can.'
They come in turbans and Ford trucks,
I buy big house with welfare bucks
They come here, we live together,
More welfare checks -- it gets better!
Fourteen families, they moving in,
But neighbour's patience wearing thin.
Finally, white guy moves away,
Now I buy his house, and then I say,
"Find more aliens for house to rent."
And in the yard I put a tent.
Send for family they just trash,
But they, too, draw the welfare cash!
Everything is very good,
And soon we own the neighbourhood.
We have hobby, it's called breeding,
Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wife need pills?
We get free! We got no bills!
Canadian crazy! He pay all year,
To keep welfare running here.
We think Canada darn good place!
Too darn good for the white man race.
If they no like us, they can scram,
Got lots of room in Pakistan!

It is interesting that the federal government provides a single refugee with a monthly allowance of $1,890.00 and each can also get an additional $580.00 in social assistance for a total of $2,470.00.
This compares very well to a single pensioner who after contributing to the growth and development of Canada for 40 to 50 years only receives a monthly maximum of $1,012.00 in old age pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement.
Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!
Let's send this to all Canadians, so we can all be ticked off and maybe we can get the refugees cut back to $1,012.00 and the pensioners up to $2,470.00 and enjoy some of the money we were forced to submit to the Government over the last 40 or 50 years.

Please forward to every Canadian to expose what our elected politicians are doing - to the over-taxed Canadian.

SEND THIS TO EVERY CANADIAN TAXPAYER YOU KNOW



Please indulge me as I paste my reply.

The not-even-veiled racist tone to the poem set my hackles off.

It's a re-work of something aimed at Americans. We have medicare, they have medicaid. We use cheques, not checks. Welfare requirements MAKE you sell your property to even be eligible. If your only income is CPP (ed: Canada Pension Plan), you can apply for welfare, too. But it's no free ride for anyone. If you're able-bodied, they make you look for work and they keep records of your attempts. Here's a FAQ on Ontario Works (ed: the welfare program in the province of Ontario): http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/mcss/english/pillars/social/questions/ow/about_ow.htm

One thing that's always bothered me is how people confuse immigrants with refugees.
Immigrants apply to come here and it can take two years to get all the paperwork done. They must have a whack o' dough with them or have skills that we need.
(That said, many people do come here and face the roadblock of not having their foreign credentials recognized. That's how we get doctors driving cabs. But that's another matter.)

Refugees declare themselves at the border or apply from outside. They come with nothing, true. And according to Geneva convention on refugees, we must let them in unless we suspect them of being bad people. (ed: and then there's the Safe Third Country nonsense to deal with but I wanted to keep this brief) The vast majority are just looking to live some place where their kids can grow up without fear. So we have officials who look into their backgrounds. Sometimes they're not allowed entry into the country, but, once here, most are allowed in while a more thorough investigation takes place. They go on welfare because they don't have permission to work right away.
Go here to learn more: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/refugees/index.html
That said, most people are hardworking and it bugs them to sit around and wait for permission to work.
Providing health care is expensive but it's a whole lot less expensive than letting people get/stay sick and having the rest of the population catch it.

There is "family class" immigration but it's not a freebie. To sponsor a family member you have to promise to support them. Go to http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/sponsor/index.html
"Sponsors must promise to support the relative or family member and their accompanying family members for a period of three to 10 years to help them settle in Canada."

Here's an opinion on immigration to Vancouver. http://www.discovervancouver.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=144002
It covers costs and benefits. It's honest; it acknowledges cost of ESL and Asian crime, but it also acknowledges the benefits of more workers.

And anyway, unless you're full-blood Native, we are all immigrants. Just because we got here a few generations ago, does that mean we get to deny other people the opportunities our grandparents got? I think it's narrow-minded and selfish. Oh, and dare I add -- bigotted.

Just my $0.02.

Thanks for asking.
:-)
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:05 PM
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7. 1%
GREAT RESPONSE

TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families) replace what we knew as Welfare after 1996. Aside from the household (THE HOUSEHOLD) not being able to have more than $2,000 in networth TANF makes up...........





wait for it





1% of Federal spending.

That is spending not budget.

Look it up in an almanac to see what the recipient gets monthy-it is more than you might expect but the ones taking crumbs aren't ripping you off the ones backing up the truck to empty the treasury while you have your back turned to yell at the poor are the ones screwing YOU over.

see my sigline
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:10 PM
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10. that's what I never understood
it's ok to complain about arts funding or welfare cheats - who together likely cost me pennies a day, if that - but god forbid anyone tries to criticize oil subsidies or other forms of corporate welfare.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:35 PM
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11. $.65
that used to be the figure for the National Arts Endowment or whatever it was called. It surely has gone up since then but basically it was nothing.

All societies great or otherwise have fostered the arts and literature. Even Saddam had quite the arts community going....well he did.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #5
17. Unfortunately there's just enough truth to that screed to keep it alive.
...and kicking. Small segments of virtually any migrant community (and a fair few locals) do learn the tricks of working the system and getting a free ride.

It's racist, bigoted, flippant full of stereotypes, and unfortunately just a little bit true. It's also a masterful work of propaganda and mendacity, using Just enough of the truth to strike a chord with everyone knows someone who knows of a case of such freeloading to keep alive The Great WHITE dream.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 01:59 PM
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6. great response!!
I've seen that original email before....you gave a great rebuttal!!

As always, the worse thing you can do to a republican is mention tax!! Even terrorism doesn't have same power over them as the thought of spending more money on taxes!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:06 PM
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9. Spanish-AMERICAN war not the Spanish Civil war
My bad
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 02:05 PM
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8. everyone wants to throw a party
but no one wants to buy the beer.

I don't enjoy paying taxes, and I honestly don't like rampant pork, but I also see them as the fair price of admission to what is a good society where one has the ability to use those resources of society in order to better oneself. Being "self made" would be very difficult without roads, police & fire departments, a fairly steady economy, a safety net for times when things are out of your hands or when things go wrong, and just a network of people around you - we got where we are through social interaction and helping each other.

Great response, btw. My dad and I always argue about this subject: he believes that taxes should be voluntary, which I find disturbingly funny.



ah, the early 1900's when if you were a rich, powerful white guy, the world was your oyster! The good old days when women and coloreds knew their place, and children were made to sweat not speak. </sarcasm>
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 05:27 PM
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12. i don't enjoy paying taxes but i do enjoy having the things they pay for.
roads, radio, stuff....

i really get pissed when my clients complain about their taxes after i do their returns. one is a doctor that has a s corp (income flows directly to him personally) and ended up with about 1.2 million of taxable income on his personal return. he BITCHED about the taxes he owed. did he think he was supposed to get away free? maybe if he and his wife didn't spend every penny they earned on fancy cars and houses (they have no investments or savings accounts) then they would have the money to pay the irs. instead they act like it is my fault.

i call myself the mean accountant at work cause i don't let my clients get away with taking the whole family on vacation and writing it off as business. the client and maybe the spouse can be counted as business but the kids... and buy season tickes to a sporting event??? i do not think so...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. My Republican step-father's pet peeve
Edited on Wed May-30-07 05:33 PM by underpants
all my rich uncles' (accountants) clients charging off box seats and suites to the business. My stepfather HATES that but won't see that he is the one getting ripped off.

good to see another accountant on DU :hi: well at least I have the degree.
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. that is why i am the mean accountant at work.
Edited on Wed May-30-07 08:08 PM by kmlewis
my job is NOT to get a client out of paying tax. it is to lower their tax burdan by legal and legitmate means.

another doctor client owns a lake house and pays for everything for it and the food and gas for the trip to his business. WHAT?? my boss says it is promotion (again) but i say IF he is taking business associates there (which i doubt) it is a best entertainment and subject to the 50% limit.

i have arguements like this a lot. sometimes i give in but with a big note in the file that i disagree or signed by my boss stating what he wants me to do. most of the time i rage about it and everyone else rolls their eyes and says "ok" but they probably change it without me knowing
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ISUGRADIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-30-07 08:19 PM
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15. It was great in 1907!
a 48 year life expectancy rules!
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #15
29. Well, on the other hand, we'd probably have a lot more fun if we knew we'd only live that long
But yea, 48 years is pretty short.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:09 AM
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18. doesn't she support the troops?


2008 Budget: http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm
51% of the federal budget goes to the military...
Total Outlays (Federal Funds): $2,387 billion
MILITARY: 51% and $1,228 billion
NON-MILITARY: 49% and $1,159 billion

--

pays for the 2.3 million members of the military (active and reserves) plus civilian 700,000 support staff and all those no-bid Halliburton contracts

This is paid for with our tax dollars, and the future tax dollars of children and eventually grandchildren.


http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/
The estimated population of the United States is 302,028,226 - each citizen's share of this debt is $29,203.33.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of $1.29 billion per day since September 29, 2006!





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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:12 AM
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19. Defenders of Taxation ///
Look at all the defenders of taxation on this thread. Pretty reveling.
I kind of like getting the services being touted on this thread but what people aren't connecting is that NONE of these come from federal sources. I have little gripe with local taxes, not so many with state taxes and a great big problem with federal taxes WHICH make up the bulk of them ...
How many times is the same dollar taxed?
Unless you are a career bureaucrat working in some airless cube for a uneventful career of rubber stamping whatever redundancy is popular at the moment than the waste should be obvious. Sadly, many of these bureaucrats are so dim witted they fail to see beyond their paychecks at the absolute meaninglessness of their mandated endeavors.
The federal government should be DOWNSIZED to the extreme. It was never meant to be the hungry gorilla it is today.
It provides us with nothing that couldn't be matched better and cheaper locally ....
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:42 AM
Response to Reply #19
22. Really, then who's paying for our almost $1 trillion a year military? Your 3% local sales tax?
Who's paying for OSHA, FDA, FCC, etc. States can't provide those type of things...hell, they can't even pay for 100% of their highways.
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primative1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:52 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. Who is paying for the military?
Lol ... I dont know but I wish they would stop. My guess is its the decider, and we are the enablers ...
As for OSHA ... there is another big laugh. Ever have any first hand experience with this fine agency? Let me give you a hint, to be effective at workplace enforcement it would be helpful if, after recieving a complaint, they didnt first call the company to schedual an appointment to visit the site. they might actualy find something of interest rather than a deaf mute workforce and a soon to be terminated whistle blower ...
What else ... FCC? Do we even need to bother with that one?
FDA? Mmmm .... doesnt this cantelope look good, and everyone just loves peanut butter .....
Should we go on?
How about the EPA? You didnt mention them or any of the other federal agencies that all have state counterparts doing a way better job at the exact same function ....
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #23
24. Most of your federal tax dollars pay for the military. I think it's extremely inefficient to
duplicate the same type of agency 50 times. Then you also get into a 'rich' state versus a 'poor' state and what they can provide. I'm very much for a federal government, versus 50 little ones and haven't seen any Missouri Army or Alaska Air Forces around. Does your state run it's own satellite network? Does it have it's own weather service? And yes, I have dealt directly with OSHA and was surprised at how good of a job they did.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:55 PM
Response to Reply #23
28. China and Japan is paying for Reagans cold war games
Edited on Thu May-31-07 02:56 PM by LSK
We have still not paid for that and we continue to pour on the tab with this Iraq and War on Terror bullshit.

And that line about lazy Government bureaucrats is a right wing old wives tale. Medicare is the most efficient medical organization in America.

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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:42 AM
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21. My big question is - Did "Mom" really want to stay home with the kids?
Or did she really just have no choice?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:48 PM
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25. Next time you see the old bat
Punch her right square in the hooters.

That's my advice, anyways.
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ItNerd4life Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:53 PM
Response to Original message
26. Question: Anybody know what % of the population was middle class
back then? I've seen this before but can't find it.

Your response was good, but did she understand it?

Also, my sympathies. I have freeper family members who always send me this stuff as well. My response on this email was "and now Bush is trying to destroy the middle class".
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:04 PM
Response to Original message
27. Great reply!
And several things to remember when talking with the people who are unhappy and want to blame 'government' for all their problems. :toast:
Thanks! :)
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:39 PM
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30. I Just HAD To Add This Comment Here... Some May Find This A Bit
UNBELIEVABLE! It caught me off-guard at first, but then I got kind of upset about it. It just doesn't seem like something that should happen. It's just a "little" thing, but it made me wonder... WHAT NEXT??

For years and years I've never spent ANY change when I bought anything because I always check dates on coins. The coins that I don't "keep" because they are older I put away and then roll them up and take them to my bank and get paper money for it. Once you could take coins to ANY bank, but now you have to have an account with that bank if you want to exchange coins. I went to my Credit Union with my rolled up coins and I usually have around $100.00 or so to exchange because it's about 15 miles away. I walked up to the teller and noticed a sign that said "all coins taken in for exchange will be charged a 3% service charge!"

I asked the teller if that meant my rolled coins, and she said yes, but she waved it this time. The reason?? Well as she put it... they take in so much "coin" and they have to send it to Treasury and it costs them to do it, so therefore they are now charging an extra fee because of the higher postal costs!!

I DO realize it's not much money, but THEY ARE A BANK aren't they?? I give them actual money and they want to charge me a percentage to give me "actual money" back!! I know the change machines cost to use them, but a BANK??

As I said, WHAT NEXT???
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:52 PM
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31. Tell her to read "The Good Old Days: They were TERRIBLE".
All about the halcyon days of suck. The turn of the century was full of injustices, rotting cities, polluted everything, suspect to just downright unsafe food (Cocaine Cola, anyone?), corporate corruption, robber barons, no highway system, boredom, commonplace abuse, child labor . . . man, I could just go on and on.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 04:04 PM
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32. Don't forget- Mom wasn't allowed to vote in 1907
wasn't allowed until 1920.
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