Gore just talking with Gwen Ifel.

[elocs]

He said that he is not a candidate and has no plans to be a candidate. That may not be crystal clear, but it does appear to be clear enough. He also said that he does not support impeachment because there is no consensus about it and with only a year and a half left in Bush's term Gore does not think it would be a good use of time and it would not have a good chance of success. So he is not a candidate, has no plans to be a candidate, and does not support impeachment. He must be a big disappointment to many here.

[Uncle Joe]

1. From what you posted,

nothing new regarding Gore's statements on running, and while I would be happy for Bush/Cheney to be impeached, Al Gore has never disappointed me in almost 30 years.

Edit for P.S. Now that I think about it, I can't think of Bush/Cheney impeachment being brought up by the media too often, let's hope this trend continues.

[elocs]

5. Well said. I agree.

There are those who somehow insist, believe, hope or wish that he will be a candidate even when he indicates other wise. There are also many who have impeachment on the brain 24/7 and don't have much use for those who do not support it. I wonder if they'll still be calling for impeachment in November of 2008?

[Uncle Joe]

7. I hope and pray he will be a candidate, my point is

everything you posted is still present tense, no different than what he's said before.

[elocs]

9. I think what he said is very plain and I will take his meaning plainly.

Too many people read into it what "they" really, really want to happen. Even if Gore plainly said that he would not be a candidate they would still feel the same way. For Gore to say that he would absolutely not be a candidate under any circumstances would tend to hurt the platform he now has and his passion for the environment would not get as much attention through him if people believed he would not be a candidate. There is probably more than one person out there who is not a candidate and has no plans to become a candidate, but that does not mean in reality they will ever be one. We are coloring and shading words with nuances that are not really there. I still take Gore's statements to mean plainly what they mean and I don't think he is being coy or macheavellian about it.

[kestrel91316]

2. Rub salt in wounds much, do you??

[elocs]

6. Well he did say exactly those 2 points and he does have a lot of support and respect here.

I would enthusiastically support him if he was running, but he is not and I don't think he will. I totally agree with him on impeachment.

[jillan]

3. I have the utmost respect for him.

AND I'M NOT GIVING UP ON THE HOPE THAT HE WILL RUN :)

[elocs]

13. I don't hope. If he runs, he runs. He has clearly said he is not a candidate.

He has said he has no plans to be a candidate. I suppose that even if he does not run in the primaries there will be a hope that there will be a deadlocked convention and Gore will be drafted. After all, there really is nobody else running for the Democratic nomination that is even remotely qualified.

[madfloridian]

4. So we do nothing at all.

Because nothing is worth it at all.

This is the DLC legacy, and it shows on our party when they have this do-nothing policy.

I love Al Gore, but I do disagree.

[Totally Committed]

8. Spot on...

ditto for me. The DLC legacy IS do-nothing for the little guy. If the corporations wanted Bush impeached he's already be gone. F*ck us.

I still think Gore will run.

TC

[IndyOp]

10. Elocs...

Even if you have always politely taken "No" for an answer when you invited a girl (or guy) for a date and they said "No" -- if you really wanted to woo that person, chances are excellent you would ask them again in future.

Maybe waiting until there is an event that happens that changes the situation, maybe just allowing time to pass and then asking again.

There's nothing wrong with that...

I think the American people ought to focus on the issues Gore is discussing (rather than obsessing on will he or won't he) and still I find nothing wrong with our leaving the door open for him and letting him know we are still interested.

:hi:

[elocs]

11. Hope is what keeps people buying Powerball tickets beyond reason.

We will have to agree to disagree about this, neither of us will change our minds.

[IndyOp]

12. Good answer! Obsession, fantasy without action are bad news - no doubt. (n/t)

[elocs]

14. Thank you for the word: "obsession". That's the word I have been looking for.

I want Gore to run, but I am not obsessing about it beyond reason or beyond the words he has actually said.

I would like to see Bush impeached (and convicted!), but I am not obsessing about it beyond reason or possibility and circumstances. I can't always get what I want and when I want it, so I am not going to pout about it or obsess.

The same goes for the vote to fund the war. I didn't like it, but I am not going to obsess over it. There will be another opportunity in a few months. I am not going to trash or leave my party over one vote on one issue because there are millions of people who are counting on the Democrats for a lot of other things. I think too many are obsessing on one vote for which there may be complex reasons and their simple solution is to trash the Democrats, the only ones who can ultimately help solve the problem and end the war, or at least wind it down.