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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:29 PM
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So Bush wants to bring 7,000 Iraqi refugee's in this country
Our boys and girls and dying for Iraq and this CRAZY ASS!!! for a President lets 7,000 Iraqis into this country.If Iraq is so much of a democracy why the hell are we allowing these's people into this country.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:30 PM
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1. Maybe because we've FUBARed their country? nt
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:32 PM
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2. That would be my guess
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:33 PM
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3. Just like after Vietnam, we owed it to the people who's lives we fucked up
But yeah, its a sign that we fucked things up grand
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:39 PM
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4. I am sure that 7,000 is a tiny fraction of the people ...
... that have had their lives destroyed by the chimp's invasion and occupation
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:05 PM
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8. Well of course
And many lives were fucked up in Vietnam as well, beyond those who came to the US
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:08 PM
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9. I was speaking to the tone set by the OP
"7,000" is not a large number
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:39 PM
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5. It bothers me somewhat in the sense that
what if these 7,000 Iraqis are REALLY PISSED OFF? One side of me says, yes, we owe it to them to let them into our country after what we've done to theirs, but the other side of me is fairly concerned about their mindset. I guess time will tell.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:43 PM
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6. Same reason we let the Boat People in after the Vietnam War
and airlifted all those babies too. I knew when this war started that the refugees would come thereafter. And why not, since we've bombed their homes to splinters and destroyed their world. But WWII, no we wouldn't let the Jewish refugees in and the ships were turned away.

WWII:
America's immigration laws have always placed quotas on the number of people allowed to enter the United States from other countries. For example, in 1939 the quota allowed for 27,370 German citizens to immigrate to the United States. In 1938, more than 300,000 Germans —mostly Jewish refugees —had applied for U.S. visas (entry permits). A little over 20,000 applications were approved. Beyond the strict national quotas, the United States openly denied visas to any immigrant "likely to become a public charge." This ruling proved to be a serious problem for many Jewish refugees who had lost everything when the Nazis took power and might be in need of government assistance after they immigrated to the United States.

Shortly after she was appointed to the cabinet, Frances Perkins, President Roosevelt's Secretary of Labor, proposed an executive order regarding refugees and immigration. Perkins suggested that the State Department should give priority to immigrants seeking refuge from racial or religious persecution. The State Department objected to this order because it would antagonize relations with Germany and alienate jobless American citizens. FDR never issued the order and State Department officials in Europe continued to reject many visa applications from Jewish refugees.

In September 1935, Nazi Germany passed laws that deprived German Jews of their citizenship. Without citizenship, Jews were legally defenseless; many lost their jobs and property. Simultaneously, countless thousands of Hitler's political opponents —gypsies, Catholics, homosexuals, even the physically and mentally impaired —became targets of Nazi violence and persecution. With so many Germans fleeing their homeland, the State Department temporarily eased immigration quotas. In 1936, the State Department approved visas for about 7,000 German refugees. By 1938, that number had increased to more than 20,000, but an opinion poll revealed that 82 percent of Americans still opposed admitting large numbers of Jewish refugees into the United States. Despite pleas by American human rights organizations, the U.S. State Department refused to increase the German quota any further.
http://www.crf-usa.org/bria/bria10_2.html#hitler

Operation Babylift:
http://www.pbs.org/itvs/preciouscargo/babylift.html

Boat People:
http://www.boatpeople.org/boat_people_the_journey.htm
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:48 PM
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7. Honor
Also, those Iraqis who have helped us will otherwise by killed after we leave.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:45 PM
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10. I recommend people read this article from the New Yorker a few months back
Edited on Thu May-31-07 06:45 PM by NoPasaran
About ordinary Iraqis who were foolish enough to hope that life might become better without Saddam and did nutty things like working as translators.
Betrayed
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 07:08 PM
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11. Thanks for digging that up; we owe a lot more than 7,000 Iraqis help. nt
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